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  1. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hui_Xiu
    I am curious as to why the members here have chosen to train kung fu.

    Habit.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
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    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
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    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.
  2. darklight is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Kung -Fu taught me about energy and has done woders for my health. I'm also starting Tai Chi, again using energy. This whole idea of energy was never taught in TKD (my former style).
  3. It is Fake is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuan
    Just to clarify.

    A person does not actually practice Kung fu but instead should try to achieve a high level of skill (kung Fu) with practice of a martial art.

    In truth, Kung Fu can be used to refer to just about any skill. A chef can have good kung fu, so can a surgeon. Even a BJJ player can have good Kung Fu.

    What Omega said about his Kung Fu makes perfect sense in this context.

    Kung Fu as used by most people to describe the CMA's is incorrect.
    Sorry, it is incorrect in China only.
    Unfortunately, in America this doesn't apply. The word kung fu has been connected to any CMA.

    Just like MMA pretty much equals grappling, kicking and punching.

    It no longer mans Mixing of styles of Martial Arts.
  4. Scott Larson is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Thank you It is Fake, that's what I was meaning it as. If I wanted to use the chinese word I would have said wushu, and that would have been even more confusing.
    Last edited by Scott Larson; 6/17/2007 11:08am at .
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  5. Chuan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Sorry, it is incorrect in China only.
    Unfortunately, in America this doesn't apply. The word kung fu has been connected to any CMA.
    But it does not make it correct. Kung Fu is only connected to CMA in such a way because of a misunderstanding or lack of knowledge. Kung Fu and what we know as Wu Shu have taken on a very undesirable name recognition and by using the correct term is part of educating and changing the common view on CMA.

    It goes along with the other BS in CMA, no touch knock outs, chi blasts, not sparring, forms only, etc. There is a way of thinking that needs to be changed in CMA and it starts at the basic level.
  6. Scott Larson is offline
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    Posted On:
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    I see your point, but its just a name. I believe there is some Shakespear quote about that.
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  7. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuan
    Just to clarify.

    A person does not actually practice Kung fu but instead should try to achieve a high level of skill (kung Fu) with practice of a martial art.

    In truth, Kung Fu can be used to refer to just about any skill. A chef can have good kung fu, so can a surgeon. Even a BJJ player can have good Kung Fu.

    What Omega said about his Kung Fu makes perfect sense in this context.

    Kung Fu as used by most people to describe the CMA's is incorrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Sorry, it is incorrect in China only.
    Unfortunately, in America this doesn't apply. The word kung fu has been connected to any CMA.

    Just like MMA pretty much equals grappling, kicking and punching.

    It no longer mans Mixing of styles of Martial Arts.
    Yeah, but Americans, and other westeners are very moronic when it comes to stuff like this. When I try to tell the the real way to pronounce karaoke, that jiujitsu isn't synonamous (spell check) with MMA or grappling in general, that kung-fu isn't neccessarily all about martial arts. They don't care. They live in their sphere of arrogance unwilling to change or even try to understand. Even members here on the forum fail to see my point. Except Chuan here. Everybody's like, well that's SAMBO, or that's your Jujitsu, or that's your Judo. No it's my kung-fu.....

    *steps off soap box.
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    sad but true...
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
    Yeah, but Americans, and other westeners are very moronic when it comes to stuff like this. When I try to tell the the real way to pronounce karaoke, that jiujitsu isn't synonamous (spell check) with MMA or grappling in general, that kung-fu isn't neccessarily all about martial arts. They don't care. They live in their sphere of arrogance unwilling to change or even try to understand. Even members here on the forum fail to see my point. Except Chuan here. Everybody's like, well that's SAMBO, or that's your Jujitsu, or that's your Judo. No it's my kung-fu.....

    *steps off soap box.
    Yes, I understand that but, it doesn't take away what has happened here in America. I agree with what you both have said but, it is in minority.

    Notice, I said unfortunately. Never said you were wrong.
    *shakes head*
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    Posted On:
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    I know what you're saying, and I'm not saying you're wrong either (jeez it smells like fucking MAP in here), but it's that mentality that allows this **** to go on so I decide to be in the minority and try to educate the idiotic masses.
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