Choi Kwang Do: Outrageous claim on website

**RunningDog** · Posted On: 2/03/2007 10:42am

I just sent GBCKD the following e-mail via their own system.

I found your school advertised in my local 'phone directory, and subsequently read your website with interest. As a user of www.bullshido.net, a website dedicated to truth and sound training methods in the Martial Arts, one particular phrase caught my eye:
"Choi Kwang Do... has proven to be the most effective martial arts system in the world".
This is an extremely bold claim. Can you tell me exactly what evidence has proved this? The kind of evidence that I and fellow Bullshido members might find acceptible, would be documented/video evidence of CKD practitioners beating practitioners of other styles, in open contest.
This issue is being investigated here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50742

Thanks for your time,

{my name}

**Petty Arson** · Posted On: 2/03/2007 2:46pm

so if they dont make contact and dont fight... and encourage non violent solutions. that seems to indicate the least effective MA there is. but maybe a very good peer counseling or self help "hug it out" group. Hugging on the mat is only acceptabe if your about to choke someone.

**fatman** · Posted On: 2/03/2007 8:59pm

Is there a recognised association that could determine whether the grading system is comparible to others. Wouldn't this be the best way to determine its worth.

**RunningDog** · Posted On: 2/03/2007 9:54pm

Originally Posted by fatman

Is there a recognised association that could determine whether the grading system is comparible to others. Wouldn't this be the best way to determine its worth.

Please read around to gauge what's condidered worthwhile in the Martial Arts on this forum.
I think it's pretty clear from their own materials that their gradings and training aren't worth anything as a Martial Art. The main focus of their training isn't fighting at all, but physical health.
All that's fine. The problem is, they describe their system as providing 'practical self-defence', and as 'proven to be the most effective martial art'. If they remove these claims and stick to blurb about health and conflict resolution, we can leave them to LARP in peace.

**oldman34** · Posted On: 2/04/2007 6:23am

Originally Posted by RunningDog

I just sent GBCKD the following e-mail via their own system.

If you signed it {my name} how is he going to know who to respond to?

Just a thought.

Back on topic. I await his response. I dont see how you can say that it is the most effective MA in the world, when you dont spar. Even light tappity tap stuff is better.

**RunningDog** · Posted On: 2/11/2007 5:07pm

Well they've had a week and have failed to reply to my query. Is it time for the dojo storming yet?

**Red Sauce** · Posted On: 2/12/2007 2:56am

Well when people say dojo storming, I imagine us all running in there with the camera crew from Dog The BOunty Hunter, just running over and GNP'n the instructor and making him say "uncle"

Do they do sessions on the weekend? If so I may be able to attend a Trial session, and then we can ask them to show us "t3h deadl3y" and maybe even bait them into a spar?!