I agree with some of this.There are just a lot of wusses out there who would be too scared to try anything that could result of themselves risking pain.
Originally Posted by Sircumcision
Or sweating for that matter.Altought that could be another group of people who usually frequent fast food joints .
Last edited by CanucKyokushin; 1/27/2007 11:48am at .
Originally Posted by wei-chi-student
also: a lot of people are just lazy, and live martial arts require lots of fitness and physical exertion. LARPing is not very physically demanding.
so aside from people not wanting to get hurt, which is a big reason, i think a lot of people don't want to work hard.
people are also often afraid of doing badly or getting "beaten" at things, so it seems there's an ego element as well.
everyone "wins" at kata and compliant drills and that makes people feel really competent, i'm sure. if you start BJJ and get choked and armbar-ed a dozen times on your first day, that can be either discouraging or inspiring.
of course, the ones who will come back are the ones who find it inspiring.
People LARP out of ignorance.
Plus your analogy can be shortened to
Hit in face = ouchy = screw this i'm going to Aikido classes.
Larping is a moralistic judgment of a strategy used to meet a need.
Ok, so the whole thread can be summed up with "Most people are lazy pussies who don't want to get hurt or sweat". Yes, no, maybe?
BTW for proof, look at all the bullshido fitness products out there. You can be strong and lean in minutes a day with no work.
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity, I think. Ignorance = lack of knowledge, stupidity = disregard of knowledge.
I think people are generally more ignorant than they are stupid. They don't know and therefore retire to someone who has authority. Like when most people get pulled over, they don't actually know in full detail the laws and just assume that police officers know them all and comply. Ergo, people see a guy in uniform (Gi + black belt, PJ's + sash, etc.) and they see authority, they see someone they believe they can rely on.
I actually practice a lot of magic card tricks, like David Blaine "Street Magic" crap. When I perform tricks for people, they want to believe it's magic. They know that I'm pulling their chain, and tricking them, but because they want to believe that the deck hasn't been carefully ordered, or that I have double cards, or that I actually pick up only one card, or that I haven't palmed anything. It's RIGHT in front of them, but they still want to believe.
Another part of larping is the desire to seem special and unique by having access to "secret" knowledge, see Ninja larping
Call me crazy but when a video starts with "ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?" and then proceeds to show seemingly endless static drills it is usually a good indication of LARPing.
Originally Posted by odacon
Last edited by HearWa; 1/27/2007 2:26pm at .
I agree with what you are saying but I don't think the ignorance vs stupidity is quite so clear. For example in your second paragraph you refer to people wanting to believe, a willful ignorance so to speak which kind of matches 'stupidity = disregard of knowledge'. I think that there are whole strata (cool word, huh?) of ignorance and stupidity with quite a bit of overlap between the two.
Originally Posted by Sircumcision
But, back to the main topic. I agree that many people want other people to tell them what to do. That releives them of the responsibility of making an informed decision or even owning the results of the endeavor if it fails to live up to their expectations. However with all the bs in popular culture about martial arts even on channels like Discovery how can people with no background in combative sports even begin to make an intelligent choice.
Belly up to the bar, chi balls for everyone!
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