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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pl4zM4
    +1 for which one?

    Pressure points.
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    Posted On:
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    My last post over there. Think I finally made my point clear:

    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    Moosey, IMO every one of your points is completely valid, and I appreciate your input. But one thing I think your missing is that although on their own, each of these points is not a sign of BS, when found in groups (10pts+ by this tests standards) it becomes highly unlikely that the school in question isn't. That is the point of the way I set it up.

    You may have a school that trains only in Hakamas, spends time doing kata 3 days a week sparring only once on fridays, has a combat tai chi class on the weekends, and talks about how Roy Gracie does the grapple and that school would still would only get 4 points. But what are the chances of a school like that not being guilty of more than that with a record like that? Not likely IMO, but if they aren't then hey the schools good regardless of style or namesake, and good for them.

    This is why I don't see what the problem is. It's set up to downplay typical cliche's that yes people on Bullshido would crucify a school for, and really looking at what's being done objectively. Normally a No-touch KO guy wouldn't get a second chance to defend himself over there, but now if he runs a quality school beyond his beliefs in that, he can show for it and prove it. I feel that the reason why some people lash out at it is because they did take the test, and their school failed miserably by its standards, so they try to tear it apart as a defense mechanism.
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    Posted On:
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    God, you're so dreamy KempoFist.
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    Posted On:
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    Hmm. I got an 11, and I do understand many of the points you made with the test. But a few words in my (and my school's) defense:
    -The instructor who taught/knew most of the grappling left.
    -Nobody at the school even tries to pretend that what they're doing with the kids and color belts is truly effective in t3h str33t. 90% of the people at the dojang are there to get in shape and have a little bit of fun.
    -The school is a suburban kiddie school. This is my main point, but keep reading if you want to know why I still train there.
    -Only the kids who show that they try and actually give a **** get to test for black belt.
    -The head instructor is an excellent martial artist.
    -If you want to learn real martial arts, you can. You just need to ask.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwoww
    Hmm. I got an 11, and I do understand many of the points you made with the test. But a few words in my (and my school's) defense:
    -The instructor who taught/knew most of the grappling left.
    -Nobody at the school even tries to pretend that what they're doing with the kids and color belts is truly effective in t3h str33t. 90% of the people at the dojang are there to get in shape and have a little bit of fun.
    -The school is a suburban kiddie school. This is my main point, but keep reading if you want to know why I still train there.
    -Only the kids who show that they try and actually give a **** get to test for black belt.
    -The head instructor is an excellent martial artist.
    -If you want to learn real martial arts, you can. You just need to ask.
    As long as there are no illusions then you're fine.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
    Pressure points.
    I guess I missed that. I thought the pressure points was more when that was the sum total of the attack. When I posted on that thread, I gave my current school a 0, but in light of this revelation we are at least a 1. But whatever. I do what I want. I club baby seals.

    Kempofist. Thanks for posting this thread on MAP and for keeping it civil. I've enjoyed reading the discussion.
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    Does the face count as a pressure point?
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