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  1. Slipster is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex
    unless the guy at the club started plastering the results around the local supermarket or something.
    For some people this is the issue. Do you trust a total stranger, some guy at a gym, with your personal information?

    Bottom line: You pay these gyms and MA schools for training to be conducted in a safe environment. I would think that would include making sure your partner is somewhat 'safe' to be in contact with. You can't leave it up to the individual, as they may not know themselves.

    Like you said, if they don't want to take the test, they can be on their merry way!
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    the whole distrust of someone for no reason must be an american thing. the assumption that he would pick me to start showing health records around after not doing it to anyone else at the gym is a little crazy.
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    I was looking at it from the most extreme angle as a possible explanation for not having standardized medical checks in all contact sports.
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    oh. fair enough :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex
    the whole distrust of someone for no reason must be an american thing. the assumption that he would pick me to start showing health records around after not doing it to anyone else at the gym is a little crazy.
    Itís not just a distrust thing, itís a law suit thing. If the gym collects the information they are liable to keep it private and safe from prying eyes. The US is a very litigious society and I suspect a lot of gym owners just donít want to expose themselves to that kind of liability.

    For the record though, I agree that any activity where the environment implies a lot of close contact and the possibility of blood contamination should require regular testing.
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    the assumption that he would pick me to start showing health records around after not doing it to anyone else at the gym is a little crazy.
    No more crazy than the assumption that a training partner will have HIV and you'll be the first case of transmission through athletic contact.
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    first case? i know that the reason they are so stringent at our club is because several people in the auckland region a while back contracted hepatitis through unsanitary training.
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    first case? i know that the reason they are so stringent at our club is because several people in the auckland region a while back contracted hepatitis through unsanitary training.
    To Alex's point (I think) there's a myriad of blood-born diseases that regular testing would potentially identify - AIDS/HIV is just the most extreme of them.

    EDIT - well, OK, EBOLA would be the most extreme but you get the point.
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    To Alex's point (I think) there's a myriad of blood-born diseases that regular testing would potentially identify - AIDS/HIV is just the most extreme of them.

    EDIT - well, OK, EBOLA would be the most extreme but you get the point.
    That's true. I don't know why everyone has been focusing so much on the HIV thing as I originally stated "HIV or something" to use it as an example, but perhaps I should have not given any in the first place.

    Ever regardless this thread has had a surprising amount of signal over noise and I haven't been reassured that blood testing isn't mandatory as of yet.
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    several people in the auckland region a while back contracted hepatitis through unsanitary training.
    Is 'unsanitary training' the same as naughty training? Heh.

    I want criminal checks too. Bad guys should only be allowed to train Wing Chun.
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