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  1. GoldenJonas is offline

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    A 330lb spazz?? Jesus Christ. **** that.
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     Style: BJJ/Pekiti Tersia/Hsing-I

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    Wow, so the tapping encouraged him to go harder? That's pretty fucked up.

    When I started BJJ I was like 315 lbs (down to 270 now, but that's another matter). 90% of the problems I was having were because I was not putting my weight down properly because I was afraid of hurting the people that were signifigantly smaller than I was. Now that I know a little more about what I'm doing I'm not afraid to use my weight but I never try to muscle submissions. I could, but whats the point? I don't learn jack **** that way. Spazzes need to learn to just slow down and apply technique.

    The original spaz talked about in this thread has improved a little bit. He's not AS spaz and the kneebar/heel hook restriction has made him a lot less dangerous. One of the blue belts that's his size has been staying with him after class and working on technique with him. When he tries his spaz **** he pays for it.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    Well our gym picked up it's own spaz last week. Maybe I am being a little over criticle of the guy. He doesn't run his mouth constantly and is personable enough but when we roll he rediculous and out for blood. My style is pretty aggressive so the coaches paired him with me. That and me being 230 and him 330 I am the closest to his wieght. The dude it stout, stout enough to just muscle me over but didn't have the technique to keep on top. I fucked up and gave up too much of my neck when I turned to kneebar him and he sunk in a good choke. I don't tap until I can feel that a guys choke is in good, working and I can't break it. Well he had me and I tapped and he sucked it in more and I tapped more and he sucked it in more and the coaches pulled his arms apart. The fucker smushed my adams apple bad enough I couldn't swallow for about a half hour and I still have serious pain swallowing 24 hours later. At the end of practice when I could half assed breath again and I accepted his appologies as genuine I was helping him with and armlock. I'd let him get about half way there then put up a fight and make him work for it. Well the cock sucker got locked in and sucked to his chest good and I told him to be careful but turn with his shoulders until I tap. He did and I tapped and he cranked it even harder and once again the coaches had to pull him off. The team owner told me next time we roll to just lay into his body until he give up his back and give his a a good chokeing in return. I suggested that they just get rid of the fat **** if he can't control himself.
    Don't allow yourself to be put in a position where you constantly get paired with this idiot because you're the one closest to his size unless he understands the tap means let go. The instructors need to talk to this guy to make sure he understands that tapping means to stop. Part of their job, in this highly litigious age, is to ensure you a relatively safe training environment.

    Control him as much as you can when you roll. Don't let him on top. When you're on top, slow you're game down, focusing on controlling him more than subbing him.

    Failing that, next time that fucker gets you in a sub and doesn't let go, scream as loud as you can, "The tap means let go!"
    Shut the hell up and train.
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    Or, "FOR ****'S SAKE LET GO OF MY FUCKING ARM WHEN I FUCKING TAP YOU FUCKING SPECIALIST!!!" You know, anything that gets his attention.
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    I am definetly not out to hurt a training partner. Most of us there are competative and fight either amateur or pro so there isn't any sense in getting fucked up in practice. If the guy learned when to stop it'll be good. Honestly he's a nice guy but he looses it on the mat. It's a hell of a workout moving a big fucker like that around. He needs to learn that practice isn't the real thing and there is no dishonor or looseing face in tapping. We are all there to learn anyway.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    Well our gym picked up it's own spaz last week. Maybe I am being a little over criticle of the guy. He doesn't run his mouth constantly and is personable enough but when we roll he rediculous and out for blood. My style is pretty aggressive so the coaches paired him with me. That and me being 230 and him 330 I am the closest to his wieght. The dude it stout, stout enough to just muscle me over but didn't have the technique to keep on top. I fucked up and gave up too much of my neck when I turned to kneebar him and he sunk in a good choke. I don't tap until I can feel that a guys choke is in good, working and I can't break it. Well he had me and I tapped and he sucked it in more and I tapped more and he sucked it in more and the coaches pulled his arms apart. The fucker smushed my adams apple bad enough I couldn't swallow for about a half hour and I still have serious pain swallowing 24 hours later. At the end of practice when I could half assed breath again and I accepted his appologies as genuine I was helping him with and armlock. I'd let him get about half way there then put up a fight and make him work for it. Well the cock sucker got locked in and sucked to his chest good and I told him to be careful but turn with his shoulders until I tap. He did and I tapped and he cranked it even harder and once again the coaches had to pull him off. The team owner told me next time we roll to just lay into his body until he give up his back and give his a a good chokeing in return. I suggested that they just get rid of the fat **** if he can't control himself.
    Don't train with him again. Refuse if you must. There is always the danger of an accident happening. It's part of the game, but it should come with the assurance of having partners with half a brain.

    The last thing you need is to be paired with fucking king kong. You don't want it, you don't need it.
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    Posted On:
    2/08/2007 6:45pm


     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    Well he had me and I tapped and he sucked it in more and I tapped more and he sucked it in more and the coaches pulled his arms apart. The fucker smushed my adams apple bad enough I couldn't swallow for about a half hour and I still have serious pain swallowing 24 hours later. At the end of practice when I could half assed breath again and I accepted his appologies as genuine I was helping him with and armlock. I'd let him get about half way there then put up a fight and make him work for it. Well the cock sucker got locked in and sucked to his chest good and I told him to be careful but turn with his shoulders until I tap. He did and I tapped and he cranked it even harder and once again the coaches had to pull him off. The team owner told me next time we roll to just lay into his body until he give up his back and give his a a good chokeing in return. I suggested that they just get rid of the fat **** if he can't control himself.
    That's so fucked up. How did he get away with this and not get barred from the gym? Acting like that is completely unacceptable.
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    Posted On:
    2/09/2007 12:26am


     Style: Sub-wrestling, mostly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    Don't allow yourself to be put in a position where you constantly get paired with this idiot because you're the one closest to his size unless he understands the tap means let go. The instructors need to talk to this guy to make sure he understands that tapping means to stop. Part of their job, in this highly litigious age, is to ensure you a relatively safe training environment.

    Control him as much as you can when you roll. Don't let him on top. When you're on top, slow you're game down, focusing on controlling him more than subbing him.

    Failing that, next time that fucker gets you in a sub and doesn't let go, scream as loud as you can, "The tap means let go!"
    Or for a more entertaining story you could scream "Rape!"
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabwyo
    I am definetly not out to hurt a training partner. Most of us there are competative and fight either amateur or pro so there isn't any sense in getting fucked up in practice. If the guy learned when to stop it'll be good. Honestly he's a nice guy but he looses it on the mat. It's a hell of a workout moving a big fucker like that around. He needs to learn that practice isn't the real thing and there is no dishonor or looseing face in tapping. We are all there to learn anyway.
    My hours (finally) got changed at work so I'll be in more. Maybe tossing me around will tire him out a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenJonas
    A 330lb spazz?? Jesus Christ. **** that.

    There is a lot of stress on the floor in our gym. The other day, I went to class where our 205 pound instructor was the smallest guy rolling.
    Last edited by JohnnyCache; 2/09/2007 1:04am at .
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  10. pauli is offline

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    now i understand. by mma gym, you guys mean massive martial artists train there.
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