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  1. Jez is offline

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    Training nutrition

    So im 'coming back' from a shoulder reconstruction, at the moment my routine is 5 or 6 days a week, switching between one day cardio one day weight training and so forth.
    I am taking whey protein isolate and i am unsure as to whether i should take it on my cardio days as well as weight training days.

    My coach told me to take it if i felt i needed it, but i was unsure whether i did or not, and i dont want to gain body fat..

    My other question is, if i consume a massive bowl of cereal prior to cardio, will that be used to restore muscle glycogen, or do i need to eat some more carbs for tomorrow?

    Well if anyone can answer these questions it would be greatly appreciated.

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    Protein is generally associated with recovery so you COULD take it on your cardio days to make sure that you don't have DOMs on your weight day and have recovered. However don't forget that vitamins and so on are just as important for recovery. Bannanas :p

    Generally if you are eating 4 - 6 meals a day you should have enough carbs in you to just get on with running. What I did personally was have 100g of oats in the evening about an hour before bed so that I would have energy the next morning. Main thing is to remember you need to get the energy back sometime.
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    Glutamine

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine

    http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupple...utaminecs.html

    I had shoulder surgery 8 weeks ago and I've been taking a Amino Acid suppliment with Glutamine in it after reading the link from the Univ of Maryland above. I don't quite trust Wikipedia 100% so added the Maryland website for verification.
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    Unless you're gonna use those calories (also known as training hard (which you won't be doing so you can recover from your injury)) skip the extra food.

    Drink carbs and protein during your workout.
    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/..._nutrition.htm
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    And take glutamine (and branched-chained aminoacids if it doesn't tax your wallet.)

    Also, to help your shoulder ligaments, take glucosamine, chondroitin sulfate, and if you can find it, a shark carthilage supplement (if you are manly and brave, just grab a baby shark and rip and chew its alive carthilage with your bare teeth.)

    -- Ed -- on another note, it could be that your doctor already prescribed you something containing glucosamine and/or chondroitin sulfate.
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    Healthspan do a very good Joint supplement with large amounts of glucosamine and cod liver oil etc from supposedly spiffing sources. You may want to use that, it's what I'm using to help my knees
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    im taking some kind of omega 3 fish oil capsule, and right after surgery for a few weeks i was taking a magnesium/calcium tablet type thing.

    I will look into glucosamine and glutamine and see if ive got the cash.

    cheers heaps!
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    and what the fakk is DOMs ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jez
    and what the fakk is DOMs ?
    Delayed onset muscle soreness.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed...uscle_soreness
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    Glutamine

    I didn't have any success using glutamine. Plus it killed my sex drive. I think I was atypical, but just monitor how you respond (meaning, don't start taking it an 5 other supps at the same time).
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