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  1. Quikfeet509 is offline

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     Style: Mostly weights now...

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    I thought Munzer's death was attributed to hypokalemia-induced dysrhythmias caused by loop diuretics? Damn bodybuilding lore...


    I miss Thermadrene. Just the plain old ECT stack and it was $20 for 45 days supply. I can still buy ma huang but it isn't standardized.



    Hey sdave, why is phentermine not in any of my drug guides? Is it OTC, rarely used, or just used off-label?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
    I thought Munzer's death was attributed to hypokalemia-induced dysrhythmias caused by loop diuretics? Damn bodybuilding lore...
    IIRC, "Momo" Benazziza died from a bad combo of Lasix and EPO... Maybe you were thinking of him?


    Quote Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
    I miss Thermadrene. Just the plain old ECT stack and it was $20 for 45 days supply. I can still buy ma huang but it isn't standardized.
    Ayup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
    Hey sdave, why is phentermine not in any of my drug guides? Is it OTC, rarely used, or just used off-label?
    Prescription only. Check under Adipex, or Ionamin?

    Phenomenally widespread usage though.
    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    That is exactly what I meant sdave. You are dead on, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
    I thought Munzer's death was attributed to hypokalemia-induced dysrhythmias caused by loop diuretics? Damn bodybuilding lore...
    Something along the line about excessive diuretics or dangerously low levels of body fat with his liver and kidneys turning into goo. Bad and sad ending for a dude in his prime.
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    I had decent results from Hot-Rox Extreme and Venom Lean Dreams. I had gotten to the point where I didn't have the energy or time to add more workouts and my eating was about as clean as it was going to get. Wanted to drop a few more pounds. I had peaked and was holding steady on the weight.
    I stacked these two products basically. One is for during the day and the other was for before bed. I dropped down to 170 using the products and my cardio and eating stayed the same, water intake increased slightly to make up for extra sweating.
    Only side effect I had from either product was an increased temp.

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    IIRC, "Momo" Benazziza died from a bad combo of Lasix and EPO...
    he got eye surgeried to death? ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    he got eye surgeried to death? ****.
    LOLer...

    Lasix = furosemide

    LASIK = LASER-Assisted in Situ Keratomileusis
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    That is exactly what I meant sdave. You are dead on, as usual.
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    Will any of these supplements work as a substitute for inducing vomiting?
  8. Quikfeet509 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdave
    IIRC, "Momo" Benazziza died from a bad combo of Lasix and EPO... Maybe you were thinking of him?
    I seem to get my dead bodybuilders confused.

    Momo:



    Munzer:



    Quote Originally Posted by sdave
    Prescription only. Check under Adipex, or Ionamin?

    Phenomenally widespread usage though.
    No dice. Apparently they don't want murses to know about these drugs because we might get tempted...or my Mosby's 2007 is just incomplete.
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    Wow, some how I had never heard how Munzer died. Fucked up way to go out...
    "Keep a sharp knife, shiny boots and be on time."
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    @anna

    Here's a CNN article about the type of suppliment that was mentioned earlier:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/02/07....ap/index.html

    Apparently it is non-prescription now (or will be soon). I don't know how much it would help, becuase you probably aren't consuming too much fat now as it is.
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