The 'real meaning' of TKD patterns......

**TKD Black Belt** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 7:19pm

Originally Posted by DerAuslander108

Actually...TKD Black Belt...you and Anslow would probably get along pretty well.

God dammit Der! Why do you always have to derail my threads with statements like that!

For the record, Gen Choi was not the only person in charge of creating patterns and refining the art. There was a number of people under him who were adding, changing and modifying as the sport grew and developed. One of these people was GM Park Jung Tae. I can say with a great amount of personal experience that throws and grappling where not taught in TKD curriculum in ITF (the group which Gen Choi headed up for a long time) and GTF (which was GM Park's org.)

Can you go back and look at a movement and transpose another on top of it? Sure. Does that make it the right interpretation? Not always.

I have a hard time believing that after 20 odd years of TKD experience I didn't come across these 'secret' techniques especially considering who it was I was training with.

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**TKD Black Belt** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 7:21pm

Originally Posted by Iscariot

Own up. Who is tkdork on their forum?

Who the hell do you think it is?

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**Iscariot** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 7:39pm

Originally Posted by TKD Black Belt

Who the hell do you think it is?

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It seemed a bit Ninjaish for you.

Can you go back and look at a movement and transpose another on top of it? Sure. Does that make it the right interpretation? Not always.

This would be my view on the whole thing.

I had a looksee around the forum and Anslow might not be about as much, apparently he (Well, not him but his wife/girlfriend/SO) has just had a baby.

**TKD Black Belt** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 7:49pm

Originally Posted by Iscariot

It seemed a bit Ninjaish for you.

- I learn from Seejuu how be good ninja.....

Originally Posted by Iscariot

This would be my view on the whole thing.

- Well I like to think I know what I'm talking about some of the time.

Originally Posted by Iscariot

I had a looksee around the forum and Anslow might not be about as much, apparently he (Well, not him but his wife/girlfriend/SO) has just had a baby.

- Oh, well. The link is there for them to use should they like. I figure this is a good forum for them to check out as we're all on our bestest behaviour!

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**Askari** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 8:14pm

Is this the book? The one with Osoto-Gari on the cover? So the Koreans invented Judo?

**Captain Spaulding** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 8:18pm

Originally Posted by oldman34

Poeun has four kicks in it. Low side kick, high side kick (double kick) I hate it. .

Po Eun has two low side kicks. There are no high side kicks. Kwang Gye has two double side kicks and two front kicks.

The white zone is for loading and unloading of passangers. There is no parking in the red zone.

**Captain Spaulding** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 8:20pm

Originally Posted by Askari

Is this the book? The one with Osoto-Gari on the cover? So the Koreans invented Judo?

No no. They invented Yudo

**Coach Josh** · Posted On: 1/18/2007 8:24pm

That's a shitty Osoto and I would dare to say maybe an Oguruma. Either way you try coming at a Judo player like that you will have your knees on each side of your head from the counter Osoto.

Oldman the version I was taught didn't have the high kick in it just one low kick to each side. I was in the UST Allaince which was a break away group from the ATA when they changed forms systems and they stayed with the chunji set with some differences. I went to a USTF tournament once and saw that the patterns had some differences. The version of toigye we did was an ax kick then the double outer forearm blocks. While at the USTF tourney it looked like a stomp kick with a double outer forearm again gay as hell. Ah memory lane someone put a bullet in my head please.:qleft6: