The 'real meaning' of TKD patterns......

**StuartA** · Posted On: 5/28/2007 10:57am

Oldman34.. still waiting to hear if you finally got a copy?

Let me know!

Stuart

**Coach Josh** · Posted On: 5/28/2007 11:17am

Just a quick aside. I got in trouble for teaching breakfalls and throws in TKD. Sad but true. Those pictures are funny as hell. You would get laughed off the mat if you came in a taught that craptastic ****.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 5/28/2007 1:38pm

Originally Posted by Errant108

Right, so, Upa, explain to me how I am not qualified to teach the complete curriculum of the art I was taught and certified in?

I am not sure ... it kinda seems like it .

hmmm ... actually I think he said you may be qualified to teach it ... but you suck .

* shrugs *

or maybe you are qualified to teach it , but what you're teaching sucks .

**Matt W.** · Posted On: 5/28/2007 4:16pm

jkartique, you mean these?

http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?i...0500341da7.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?i...05003423cj.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?i...05003434jc.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v05003449yd.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?i...05003459gk.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?i...0500346ur0.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?i...05003473ra.jpg
http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?i...0500348mn1.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8766/v05003513jt.jpg
http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?i...0500352vs5.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?i...05003532gy.jpg

Heck ya, those are terrible! LOL. And people try and use those to say that "TKD has grappling". To me, those are proof of the opposite. Those are proof that Choi and his people knew nothing about grappling and just tacked some crap on.

Anyway, there's room to criticize Stu's stuff (which is not the same as above), but at least he does bring in qualified grappling instructors to teach seminars and stuff.

**Coach Josh** · Posted On: 5/28/2007 9:57pm

OH god no not those I was a green belt in Judo at the time.

**StuartA** · Posted On: 6/03/2007 6:19pm

Originally Posted by jkartigue

Just a quick aside. I got in trouble for teaching breakfalls and throws in TKD. Sad but true.

More so as they are meant to be part of TKD and the instructor failed to recognised that fact!

Stuart

**kwoww** · Posted On: 6/03/2007 7:12pm

Originally Posted by StuartA

More so as they are meant to be part of TKD and the instructor failed to recognised that fact!

Stuart

I agree that he should be allowed to teach them, but you're incredibly wrong about this. How are they "meant" to be a part of TKD? The lost art of TKD grappling? In your obscure branch of t3h r34l TKD, do you crapple? Please explain yourself further.

**StuartA** · Posted On: 6/03/2007 7:20pm

Originally Posted by kwoww

I agree that he should be allowed to teach them, but you're incredibly wrong about this.

Actually.. no Im not! go read the thread or even just the last couple of pages if its too much for you!

How are they "meant" to be a part of TKD?

Cos they, for those that practice the Ch'ang Hon system, are in the texts written by Gen Choi detailing the system.. hence they are part of the system. They are also parts of other TKD systems as well, as many others on here have already pointed out ..they have learnt them as part of their TKD training and have come up different routes/lines to me.

The lost art of TKD grappling? In your obscure branch of t3h r34l TKD, do you crapple? Please explain yourself further.

The posts refers to throws actually.. again, if you bothered to read any of the thread you would have seen that before making your stupid comments! FYI I dont do an obsure branch of TKD, in fact I do one of the most well known 'branches'.

What branch do you do?