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  1. Mr. Mantis is offline
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    I've seen plenty of people fail.
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    At my Karate dojo, they have "promotions" rather than "tests/gradings". If you're there, you're going to promote - if the sensei doesn't think you're ready, you're not invited. Even though you're going to get the belt, they make you go through an hour or two of torture to see how you handle the stress of the situation.

    Besides being able to meet all the physical requirements (certain katas, one steps, kicks, falls, throws, etc) they also have a 80% attendance requirement, so I see a lot of folks not get invited, at least at the lower belt level.
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    Jiu Jitsu - Sometimes passing just isn't an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noto
    At my Karate dojo, they have "promotions" rather than "tests/gradings". If you're there, you're going to promote - if the sensei doesn't think you're ready, you're not invited. Even though you're going to get the belt, they make you go through an hour or two of torture to see how you handle the stress of the situation.

    Besides being able to meet all the physical requirements (certain katas, one steps, kicks, falls, throws, etc) they also have a 80% attendance requirement, so I see a lot of folks not get invited, at least at the lower belt level.
    Me personally, the attendance reqirement sucks. I know many of badasses who are just as good as a lot of the people who come into class every session. For whatever reason (school, work, children, etc) they cannot make it. To deny them of something they have earned because of attendance sucks. If your school doesn't do that then that's cool, if it does, then it sucks.
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    Well I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, but it keeps folks from just showing up to half the classes and expecting to advance. If someone is putting in the effort out of class, I'm sure they'd make an exception.

    It's 2 nights a week and promotions for low belts are every 3 months, so you can miss 7-8 classes over a quarter. I don't think it's that excessive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noto
    Even though you're going to get the belt, they make you go through an hour or two of torture to see how you handle the stress of the situation.
    If they are going to get promoted anyway, what is the point of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWest
    If they are going to get promoted anyway, what is the point of this?
    I think it has something to do with exerting control over someone. I hear cult leaders do it all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uechidude
    Well, anyone giving out a BB in 6 months needs to be shot. I actually earned mine early, and it only took 4 years. No, I have not failed any of my tests "yet", however I have one coming up this Feb...so who knows ? Now I have seen people in Uechi Fail test's up to the rank of Sandan. I witnessed this @ Frank Gormans dojo in Clearwater Fl.

    I did mine in 3 months does that mean I need to be shot twice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vladoshi
    You could be right, but I believe my question:

    - Asks for a personal experience as "Serious discussion" on which schools exactly are not "McDojos"
    - proof of not being a "questionable Martial Artist"
    - "fight fraud in the Martial Arts" by contributing specific examples of definitely not being fraud

    It is a closed question not interested in anybody's philosophy, only their measureable experience (at least as honest as internet posts could be expected).

    I do not (want) my question buried between the avalanche of "pics of disaster"/YouTube links in YMAS, and it does not claim anyones MA sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datdamnmachine
    There are no gradings in BJJ (well, I hear a few schools do it, but it is somewhat taboo).
    Are you fucking stupid? BJJ grading system is white, blue, purple, brown, belt that EVERY BJJ ORG uses.

    What the **** are you talking about?
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