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  1. Bullwhip is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/11/2007 6:17pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Front and side split in shortest time.

    I just got a certification to teach group fitness, cardio kickboxing and pilates.

    I will get payed per class plus per number of students as a bonus.

    I really need splits to show them off. That will draw crows and I will get extra .50 per person, so it adds up.

    So far everything points to 3 sources.

    http://www.elasticsteel.com

    http://wwww.stadion.com

    http://www.dragondoor.com

    By the trailors I am leaning toward ElasticSteel.
    If you use one of them and it helped you with splits, please advise.
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    1/12/2007 2:33am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Nope.
  3. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/12/2007 3:01am

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     Style: Muay Thai & BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I got elasticsteel about 4 months ago. I wasn't really impressed.

    **** we did in Judo.
  4. jubei33 is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/12/2007 9:37am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    use a door frame and pull. You can also have someone push on your back and stretch it out.
  5. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/12/2007 9:43am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The OP is asking for a groin pull injury.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
    1/15/2007 2:26pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    One thing you need to check is whether you are physically capable of the splits ie. is your hip join capable of moving that far for the full side splits.
  7. zendeath2000 is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/16/2007 12:51pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    unless your a hot teen cheerleader and performing them naked; doin the splits shouldnt be the thing that draws people into your class.

    there is a great post on stretchin that you should use to get more flexible and then stretch alittle more further and longer each day.
    Or you could go the dumb route and waste your money on something you could build yourself.
  8. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/16/2007 1:35pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'm scared of anyone asking for directions on how to do splits the quick-n-easy way while at the same time overseeing a group fitness class... but maybe that's just me, or the little voices in my head.

    Stretch the knee, the hips, glutes, hamstrings, flexors/extensors, stuff with immediate practical day-to-day applications, stuff that would come naturally from Yoga or Pilates.

    Anything else, splits includes is just "fluff", and a good way to get a groin pull.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
  9. Judah Maccabee is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/17/2007 12:50am

    supporting memberhall of fameBullshido Newbie
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Tsatsouline's theory about the splits is that most people's body's are physically capable of doing splits, but not mentally capable.

    From "Relax into Stretch" :

    The traditional Western approach to flexibility has failed because it started with
    the assumption that muscles and connective tissues need to be physically stretched.
    Other myths snowball from there. Hackers have a saying, "Garbage in, garbage
    out." If the premise is false, all the conclusions will be wrong, no matter how
    sterling is the logic leading up to them.

    Let it sink in: the premise that you need to stretch if you want to be
    flexible is wrong.

    Ugh? How can it be?

    Listen to this: no muscles run from one
    leg to the other. No tendons, no
    ligaments, nothing but skin. Like the
    wheels on your Land Rover, your legs
    boast independent suspension. T h a t
    means you should be able to bring the
    other leg out at the same angle and do a
    split without stretching a thing.

    So why can't you?

    F e a r. Tension. The muscles tighten up
    and resist lengthening. Russian scientists
    call it antagonist passive insufficiency.
    Based on your previous experiences—
    sitting all day or performing monotonous
    l a b o r, or exercising incorrectly—your
    nervous system has picked the favorite
    length for every one of your muscles and
    prefers to keep it that way. Whenever you
    reach too far compared to this standard,
    t h e s t retch re f l e x kicks in and reins your
    muscles in.

    If you try something really aggressive
    that you have never done before—for
    instance splits—the stretch reflex panics
    and stiffens up your muscles with all its might.
    Comrade, it is not short muscles and connective tissues that make you tight; it is
    your nervous system, ‘the muscle software’ that refuses to let your muscles to slide
    out to their true full length! A muscle with pre-Depression connective tissues and
    more scars than a prize fighter is still long enough to display as much flexibility as
    allowed by its associated joints. Master the muscular tension—and you will be as
    flexible as you want to be, at any age.
    Then he gets into all the stuff about how to do it.
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    Posted On:
    1/17/2007 2:02am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Just watch Van Damme in Kickboxer for some good techniques.
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

    NEW BONUS REEL, feat RobG at it again! lol:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDnMDJVWmQ
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