Thread: Question on steroids.
1/11/2007 3:54pm, #11Originally Posted by Anthony
PCT - hadn't thought that I'd ever come off.
Diet - same. I eat big anyway ~3000 cal, 250+g protein.
Workout - Same as up thread.
2-4 weeks - Sure. I'm not going anywhere.
Cyp vs teh world - Doing cyp for the price. 2000mg = cheap.
Doc - yes. offically i'm on HRT.You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
1/11/2007 3:54pm, #12Originally Posted by PirateJon
That your doc is even willing to begin HRT though, makes it seem likely that he'll be willing to make adjustments as you proceed.
Keep us posted.Dave
Originally Posted by jnp
1/11/2007 4:05pm, #13
Well, this thread turned around quickly. For the better, for some,maybe not for others.
Okie dokie, I started off on 200mg/week first two weeks and kicked up to 400 in the 3rd and 4th. But I was also cycling in Deca right off the bat with my Cyp. So it was 200mg tues Dec, and 200mg Cyp. All depends, I"m betting is straight up hypogonadism, which if I'm not mistaken is the most common. How is your DHT levels Jon? Cause that's gonna be really important come PCT time.
Finally, start thinking of PCT's now. You will need to come off. Sooner or later.
Okay, really finally. I've quit alot of really addictive things. The thing that fucked me up the most was juice.
Remember that please.
1/11/2007 4:23pm, #14
I've just called to schedule a blood test for next week. I'll ask about DHT then. PCT too.
Originally Posted by Anthony
Amusingly, I come from a nice big family of drug addicts and alkies. Drugs on my dad's side, booze on my moms. One of my uncles met his wife in heroin rehab...
1/11/2007 5:19pm, #15Originally Posted by PirateJon
I tore my L5 doing leg presses with 10 plates on each side. There was no safety stop, and I had the 1000lbs just slam down, my knees touched the side of each ear, like they were ear warmers.
I couldn't walk for a few weeks, it was sad, when I could walk again, I walked like an old man, I had maybe 30 percent use of my legs due to the Nerve Damage I caused.
This is a picture of me 2 months after my accident, I took up shooting and guns to get my mind off not being able to work out. In essence, traded one addiction for another.
I've already lost 10 percent or so of my size by the 2nd month.
It's not inasmuch the physical need of steroids, but the mental addiction. I was strong, really fucking strong. Every week I was gaining, I was as big as some of the Bodybuilders who had years on me in the gym. Just in my first week I gained 10 to 15lbs muscle, and lost 5 to 7 lbs of fat.
That type of mental addiction is the worst, I literally thought I was Superman doing the leg press, and kept adding weight to an excercise that I maybe only did 3 or 4 times in my whole life previous to hurting myself.
I got really depressed after coming off, even after doing my PCT's correctly. The Superman effect you get from doing Steroids is real, and everything they say about mood change is real. I'm very laid back, but on the juice, I was more aggressive and confrontational. In fact, I can look back and see posts by Dochter making a comment about the roids and blew them off, but it was true, it changeds you. BUT **** DID I LOVE IT!
That's the worst addiction, I hated every other addiction, because it ruled my life, but I got rid of it. Steroids I really loved, and that's why I considered it the most dangerous.
1/12/2007 3:07am, #16
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T-nation has some good advice as far as steroids go, but like most people here, I'd suggest asking a doctor. Some guys are lucky enough to guesstimate their way through the steps, others aren't as lucky.
And from what I've heard from a few juicers, you'll want to pace yourself in the gym. Some guys tear muscle simply because their bodies don't tell them to stop lifting when it normally would.
1/12/2007 3:21am, #17
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What is the main purpose of cyp? I read on BBing. com that different roids for different goals, like bulking, cutting, muscle building, cardio, etc.
Since you seem to have some excess weight would it make sense to take a steroid that helps you cut, since you are using them anyways?
Or is what I red bogus?
1/12/2007 4:04am, #18Originally Posted by LI GUY 1
Bodybuilding is 80% diet, 20% working out. With our without juice.
Cyp is a mass builder, and the most common HRT used for men with low Test results.
1/12/2007 5:19pm, #19
Originally Posted by PirateJon
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...you might also ask the doc about it.
You asked for links-
There's some more stuff I can't access right now (at work), I'll post it up later on.
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1/12/2007 5:28pm, #20
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