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    Is Surge what it's cracked up to be?

    I am an occasionaly reader of T-Nation and their weekly newsletter, and I notice that they mention Surge (http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459244) in damn near every article they write. As someone who's desperately trying to put on muscle mass, I'm always looking for edges. Does anyone use this product? Is it really such a great boon to muscle gain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw
    I am an occasionaly reader of T-Nation and their weekly newsletter, and I notice that they mention Surge (http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459244) in damn near every article they write. As someone who's desperately trying to put on muscle mass, I'm always looking for edges. Does anyone use this product? Is it really such a great boon to muscle gain?
    It's nothing super remarkable. Some aminos and protein hyrdolyzate for quick protein digestion and sugar to kick your insulin response into gear and move it around your system.
    Now, the obvious question you'll get asked here before you sweat "gaining edges" is what's your diet? maybe you've already answered that elsewhere, I haven't searched.

    It's based on a sound idea. It's pretty cheap (for a pure hydrolyzate powder) but they're not letting you know the ratios so hard to say if it isn't a bunch of sugar and filler.

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    T-nation is sponsered by biotest....that's why they always hype their products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    T-nation is sponsered by biotest....that's why they always hype their products.
    well duh!
    Surge is not so much for mass gain as it is for recovery (if used for mass it will add quite a bit of fat) my soreness post exercise has dropped significantly since using surge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosai1
    well duh!
    Surge is not so much for mass gain as it is for recovery (if used for mass it will add quite a bit of fat) my soreness post exercise has dropped significantly since using surge.
    I thought it was to aid uptake of creatine by creating an insulin spike as well as to replenish carb levels to stop hypoglycemia which can occur in the active. I imagine fish oil caps would be the best to reduce post workout soreness.

    "Well Duh" makes you sound like a spasticated primary school child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosai1
    well duh!
    Surge is not so much for mass gain as it is for recovery (if used for mass it will add quite a bit of fat) my soreness post exercise has dropped significantly since using surge.

    I don't think the original poster found this fact as obvious as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakmongkol
    I thought it was to aid uptake of creatine by creating an insulin spike as well as to replenish carb levels to stop hypoglycemia which can occur in the active.
    Can't you just use sugar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razamataz
    Can't you just use sugar?
    Sure you can, i would still add some sort of protein and/or BCAAs to the mix though. The main thing is to take advantage of the insulin spike (assuming you are eating correctly elsewise) to shuttle nutrients to one's muscles. Surge isn't bad, but i am not sure if it passes the cost/benefit analsysi. I have taken to mixing my own post-workout drink because i can get the components of surge cheaper than buying it. (and i can modify the mix to better fit me).

    BTW, The whole post-workout stuff is only worth doing if one's diet and other stuff is in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    I don't think the original poster found this fact as obvious as you do.
    respect! my apologies
    to the OP hope you find a workable solution.
    Last edited by cosai1; 4/26/2008 8:01pm at .

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    Uhh... I think you better stick to creatine and lots of lots of food.

    I'm pretty sure that creatine monohydrate is the only supplement proven to give you an edge in gaining muscle mass in clinical trials. And dude, you're so skinny, if you're trying to gain weight you should begin working out. I should too, but I'm too lazy. :new_Llol:

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