I thought it was funny that the guy specifically went out of his way to hit the attackers head into the door in almost every scenario. I mean he practically had to pick the guy up once and drag him over to the door just to do it. I guess it makes a loud noise and sounds good on video.
BTW, I hope that knife was sharp because they don't use dull knives in the "hood."
Looked like a bit of an omoplata @ 2:48-2:54
Thats if you even realize that the knife is in play. There's a great article by Bill McGrath that documents a number of knife encounters. It used to be available on line, but I haven't been able to find it in a while. Half the time the person didn't even know a knife was in play until after the fight. People have gone on record saying that they registered the stab as "a heavier than usual hit."
Originally Posted by nomamao
The fact is, there's no guessing how you're going to react until your in the scenario. Assuming anything (that the person will slow down, stop, give up, freak out, bleed out, etc.) is just that assuming with no proof.
Totally agree about jamming the guy's head into the door.
This was posted in the last fortnight it's got some great advice for anyone interested in realism in their knife defense.
hope I got that right.
This is interesting, but the scenarios presented are where the attacker is clearly not intent on killing the victim, at least not right away. In any of the scenarios, if the attacker had just started knifing, the victim would have been in a bad way.
Yeah, it definitely looks like the attacker is just brandishing the knife in order to rob the guy. He seems to be presenting the knife a bit to easily to the defender. But I guess for this scenerio the defender did alright, excluding the out-of-the-way head to door bashing, and the stabbing of the guy who was down. But the defenses themselves seemed sound. He got control of the knife, and put the attacker off balance, which are two key points.
I'd be curious to see what he'd do if it were an attack where the guy just walked up, hiding the knife, then started trying to shank him in a sewing machine-style attack. This type of assault is much more difficult to deal with, and is would be the more likely style of attack for someone who really wants to do you harm.
Agreed, it looked setup (which it was). To attack without any type of warning, he would have been dogfood.
Originally Posted by Ryno
Just curious: How paranoid do you have to be before a person starts to contemplate developing viable defenses for a scenario when you are entirely alone, in a dimly lit and secluded hallway, and someone who pops out of nowhere tries to, from behind, assassinate you with a knife????
What next? What do you do if you walk down a blind, dark alley with hundreds of dollars falling out of your pockets and 26 Uzi-wielding Ninjas descend upon you from behind?
How dumb can it get?
There is a point where you need to just let it go. It may very well be your time to die. An RBSD scenario where someone tries to confront you at knifepoint is one thing. But a defense against someone stabbing you repeatedly from behind without warning? Sheesh. It's called a cell phone a whole lot of good luck the EMTs will reach you in time.
Originally Posted by Matt Bernius
There are also people that have been shot in the head with nailguns and not noticed until minutes later. Same thing with people that have taken bullets in the head and thought they were scratched, or that someone spilled something on them. While this does happen, I'm not about to say that this is natural, or even worth counting on. And, if you are stabbed in the chest and even win out that fight for your wallet, you will most likely have lost more than what was in it to the hospital. So, it's a done deal whether you keep fighting or not. These senarios are about being robbed.
In this senario, the defender knows that a knife is in play. So, when he's stabbed, he most likely isn't going to keep coming.
I am a very hard critic when it come to realistic knifedefense, and I really have (edit: not) seen THE knifedefense yet. The only thing I liked about the video was that it showed the situations, where you might actually have a chance to defend yourself(mugging situations). But it didn't really look all that realistic, though it looked kind of ok.
In surprise knife attacks, I think that you are pretty much fucked. However, if he comes close to you, and more uses the knife as a threating device than a weapon, and maybe he is even a little hesistant of actually using it, you might stand a decent chance of actually applying a selfdefense technique... A lot of if's!!
But overall I think that it is FUCKED UP to risk your life for your wallet!!! I believe you should only use, whatever knife defense you can, in life threatning situations with no possibility of escape! I also think that the defensetechniques showed, will get more people injured than saved.
Lol. And yeah, as someone said, at 2.52 it looked like he had him in an ugly oma plata with a transition into an armbar armbar-thingy:icon_razz . Now who says BJJ doesn't work against a guy with a knife(please note the irony).
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