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  1. Little Idea is offline
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    9/09/2002 12:54pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I practice WT. My sifu is Emin Boztepe.

    I 'hate' his advertising. I 'love' training with the guy.

    I think a big part of it comes down to the difference in mentality. Boztepe is Turkish born-German raised. His world view is not the same as yours or mine. He makes adds he likes. I don't like them.

    Its kinda like the difference between British and American comedy.

    If you have never seen Emin's WT, go see, better yet go feel it.
    If a `religion' is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one. -- John Barrow

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    9/09/2002 2:25pm


     

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    I agree. Boztepe's adds and even some of the videos can be a bit campy. But once you actually see him in action in person, it's a different story. The guy can definately fight and his anti-grappling program seems straight forward when you consider his goal is train the average person for the average situation they may encounter on the street and not to win a mma contest.
  3. Michael

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    9/09/2002 2:36pm


     

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    The difference between video and live? What are you a moron let me see...hmmmm

    Two dimensional vs three dimensional
    Actual effect vs possible staged effect
    real fighting vs sport fighting (maybe bad example)
    You watch TV a lot and don't get out much do you? Something blowing up on TV or the computer has much less of an impact than say, a bomb blowing up in your front yard when you least expect it.

    I'm coming from the outside and vouching for something. Nobody paid me, nobody encouraged me, and there is no incentive for me to do so. People question his stuff I've seen it, I liked his approach, I'll stick with mine but hey if you would like to use his techniques I'm saying they're practical.

    sheesh.
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    Posted On:
    9/09/2002 2:51pm


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I've never seen the anti-grappling videos but what he teaches at seminars is essentially what any grappling school would also teach with more emphasis on striking and integration of WT concepts.
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    9/09/2002 3:30pm

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    The difference between video and live? What are you a moron let me see...hmmmm

    Two dimensional vs three dimensional
    Actual effect vs possible staged effect
    real fighting vs sport fighting (maybe bad example)
    You watch TV a lot and don't get out much do you? Something blowing up on TV or the computer has much less of an impact than say, a bomb blowing up in your front yard when you least expect it.

    I'm coming from the outside and vouching for something. Nobody paid me, nobody encouraged me, and there is no incentive for me to do so. People question his stuff I've seen it, I liked his approach, I'll stick with mine but hey if you would like to use his techniques I'm saying they're practical.

    sheesh.

    OK smart ass. Let me rephrase this "How is what is show in the video different then the "real application" of the technique, understanding that it was suppose to be "this is my style vs a grappler"
    What I am trying to get at, is do they do teh same BS crap they do on the ad or do they do different things.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
  6. Michael

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    9/09/2002 3:33pm


     

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    Different
    I apologize for my answer I'm on edge today so there. brrrrrrrrrrrrrp
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    Posted On:
    9/09/2002 3:53pm

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     Style: Judo and BJJ

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    OK, that is logical.
    If it is different than the video, that is cool, cause that video is crap.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
  8. 9chambers

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    9/09/2002 4:38pm


     

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    I have a question. What martial arts have you been taking where pressure and sensativity don't matter? Some of us aren't impressed with Emin because that stuff is what we were learning as kids.

    In grappling, all you train in is sensativity to pressure, weight shifts and small changes in his stance. You often don't see what is going on - you feel it. For someone with such an extensive background in grappling you seem overly impressed with this aspect of WT training.
  9. Michael

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    9/09/2002 4:57pm


     

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    lol, overly impressed, yeah. I was impressed that they were teaching basic grappling exercises. Telling the students at the seminar that you have to know how these throws are done in order to counter them. The guy even said that you should try doing some throwing and grappling to get a better feel for what they do. Impressed, yeah I thought they were going to be egotistical and narrow minded and they weren't. Compared to most systems of teaching that I have seen this is saying a lot.
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    Posted On:
    9/09/2002 5:19pm


     

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    No, Sifu Micheal Casey is far from egotistical. He seems to be a pretty straight forward. I believe he used to be bouncer and did quite a bit of thai boxing before he did WT. Where did you attend this seminar?
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