12/30/2006 4:51pm, #131Originally Posted by GuiltySpark"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/30/2006 5:01pm, #132Originally Posted by Gabster the Bad Elf
Fall-in, stand easy, stand ready, attention, open order right dress.
Aim, shoot, jam, fix, carry on shooting.
Sword out, stab, slash, big cut, sword away again."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/30/2006 5:08pm, #133Originally Posted by Gabster the Bad Elf"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/30/2006 5:10pm, #134
Geez, are we going to get into the whole kata debate now? I'll step out on a limb here and say that kata has its purposes. Its a way to train by yourself without a partner. If done properly, you should also train the practical applications of the techniques with a partner (i.e. one, two and three step sparring routines), which then you apply in free sparring. Kata alone is BS, but as a part of well developed curriculum, I think it serves a valuable function.
12/30/2006 6:18pm, #135
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[quote=TEA]Bringing the French into this is not a good way to argue for the effectiveness of Aikido - unless you want to argue that Aikido has effective techniques for surrendering.[/quote
I guess you had freedom toast for breakfast and freedom fries for lunch. The only reason I mentioned the French was to point out that there are reputable organizations that call themselves aikibudo, and are well known in Canada an all over Europe and recognized in Japan.
12/30/2006 6:22pm, #136
Originally Posted by Dave Humm
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12/30/2006 7:11pm, #137Originally Posted by velomaster
Last edited by Rock Ape; 1/07/2007 3:34pm at ."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/31/2006 12:15pm, #138Originally Posted by Mungkorn Dam
In Dai-to ryu their first teaching "Ikkyo" 一教 consists of around 118 individual techniques making up the "Shoden" 初伝 entry-transmission of their syllabus. In aikido "ikkyo" is the first of six osae 押さえ pinning techniques each with their own specific names. (depending upon style these change slightly)
1. ude osae (ikkyo)
2. kote mawashi (nikyo)
3. kote hineri (sankyo)
4. tekubi osae (yonkyo)
5. ude nobashi (gokyo)
6. hiji gaeshi (rokkyo)
In addition to the above aikido widely uses a further immobilisation katakateme (see earlier posted picture of Chiba K. Shihan for illustration) yet, the same waza in judo is entirely different.
The whole Dai-to Ryu syllabus (generally) exists as a response to a particular forms of attack hence, a very large number of techniques, Aikido on the other hand has a limited set of core kihon waza which then utilises a set of principles (physical and theoretical) to make those techniques fit many sets of circumstances; The problem however is those "circumstances" are koryu based.
Aikido focuses not on punching or kicking opponents
but rather on using their own energy to gain control of them or to throw them away from you. It is not a static art, but places great emphasis on motion and the dynamics of movement""To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/31/2006 1:34pm, #139Originally Posted by Iceman140..only people I know that attack that way are Aikido students, and isn't an attacking Aikido student a contradiction of terms.
Aikido technique begins long before any form of physical contact is made. Ma 間 the distance between two people is a critical factor in obtaining strategic advantage, especially in a fight involving weapons such as the Japanese sword. - Remember those koryu influences I mentioned before creeping in again..
issoku-ito-no-ma-ai is the interval between two combatants where a further single advancing step would bring either (or both) in ideal range to achieve an attack. The phrase issoku ito no ma ai is primarily drawn from kendo (remember the sword influences aikido) however given what it actually means, it could just as easily refer to any fighting art.
Control of ma-ai 間合mutual distancing often results in advantage but, almost all classical budo requires opportunity (either created or accidental) for an attack to be successful thus, a swordsman for instance, might attempt to entice an attack by offering what might appear to be an accidental opening.. or in other words a "feint" thereby drawing his opponent into disadvantage... or (again) in other words, they've begun to "attack" their opponent by using distance, timing and perceived opportunity.
At a deeper level of thinking/understanding there exists go no sen / sen no sen / sensen no sen and these concepts deal specifically with the timing involved in dealing with conflict.
Go no sen
An immediate and automatic response to an attack which exploits the movement/recovery of your attacker
Sen no sen
You and your opponent begin to move simultaneously. Your awareness of his intention to attack allows you to attack just slightly faster, making your strike just before his.
Sen Sen No Sen
In this situation both you and your opponent are ready and willing to attack. Your attack must be made first in a spilt second between the time your opponent mentally commits to the attack and the moment he begins his actual movement. His commitment to attack will prevent him responding with a defence."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
12/31/2006 5:37pm, #140Originally Posted by Dave Humm
Take that **** to the bank beatttcchh!!!