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  1. Emevas is offline
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    It's basically using a powerrack's pins to set them at the part of the lift you're sticking at. Ie: if your bench stops going up 3inches from your chest, you set the pins at the 3 inch mark. You can lift more weight because of the short range of motion and blast past this sticking point.

    Advanced? Anyone can do it when they hit a sticking point.

    You can also do it without a power rack, like board presses and such.
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    partial lifts don't count. They can be a tool to better do a full lift and are great one. I do partial deadlift from the pins to work my grip. I wouldn't if I had a better way to work grip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    Do you really think using a box squat or a pin squat to break past a sticking point is analogous to wearing a squat suit?
    Nope, it's a snarky way to say that more weight on the bar doesn't nessessarily mean stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    partial lifts don't count. They can be a tool to better do a full lift and are great one. I do partial deadlift from the pins to work my grip. I wouldn't if I had a better way to work grip.


    Nope, it's a snarky way to say that more weight on the bar doesn't nessessarily mean stronger.
    My point is that everyone is quick to write off box squats and pause squats when you can use them as a tool to get more weight on your regular squats.
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    I think Emvas just hit it on the head. I test my strength on 3 lifts right now. Bench, Squat and Deadlift(even though I have just started squating). I get a total out of this. Right now Im at 805 - 340 Deadlift, 245 Squat & 110 DB Bench. If I keep these exercises as a test and improve in each one using the same lift each time, then Im getting stronger. As my total increases, so does my strength.

    Partials are a good way to get past sticking points and add weight onto your full ROM lift. Partial deads help your regular dead. Just doing regular full ROM exercises is silly!

    Partials, as an example help you get ready for that extra weight. If you deadlift heavy weight(for your size and strength) you know what it feels like to not only have muscle soreness, but have your nerves worked.

    As the guy above me stated, its a tool to get more weight on your regular lift.
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    I like partials and lockouts sometimes. Negaties to. Not so much to help me get past sticking points(though I'm sure that works well), but because I like to get a feel for the heavy weight.

    I want to get used to holding a 315 bench or a 500 dead so that I don't freak out when attempting my full ROM lifts. Maybe its just a mental thing. If I have held a 500 dead at lockout I feel more confident when I go for a 405 dead.
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    LI Guy, you might wanna try "walkouts" as suggested by Pavel. Before you do a heavy set of a lift like bench or squat, put on an even heavier weight. If you want to squat 350, put 400 on the bar. Walk out with the weight for a few steps, mentally prepare yourself to squat it, then walk it back into the rack. Rest for about 3-5 minutes, put the weight you want, and give it a go. It'll feel lighter to you, and due to some funky CNS crap, might actually increase your strength for the lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIJoe6186
    Just doing regular full ROM exercises is silly!

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