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    Wow, spetznaz huh? I guess systema is teh deadly after all. Aren't they the guys that used remote-viewing units? In case you don't know what remote-viewing is, it's using psychics for recon, complete with magic crystals (lol).
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

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    Different Valentin from Vlad's brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiai_killer
    Wow, spetznaz huh? I guess systema is teh deadly after all. Aren't they the guys that used remote-viewing units? In case you don't know what remote-viewing is, it's using psychics for recon, complete with magic crystals (lol).
    Have you ever seen 'Dune' directed by David Lynch ?

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    Is that the one with Sting in it?
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

    NEW BONUS REEL, feat RobG at it again! lol:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDnMDJVWmQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiai_killer
    Is that the one with Sting in it?
    Yeah. And the big fat ginger bloke who wears a levitation suit.
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    Personally, I feel that SciFi did a much better translation/screen adaptation.

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    Well, Ryabko is not the only proponet of Systema, there is also Kadochnikov, both are linked to Russian Military. Kadochnikovīs link is:

    http://kadochnikov.tih.ru/

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    Sambosteve, thanks for the translations. I don't really care for systema, but it just feels great to read sources and then discuss/bash/whatever, instead of just d/b/w without any factual information...
    And I hope I don't disturb you ladies, but I'd just love to know the opinions of some of the better informed amongst you about the connection between Spetsnaz and the Noks knife manufacturing company. They claim to produce (mass-production version of) blades for the Spetsnaz/GRU units...
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    Kadachnikov Systema is a different style from Ryabko/Vasiliev Systema. Both use the name Systema however they are different. Ryabko and Kadachnikov know each other in a professional sense but there is no connection between their organizations.

    I believe Ryabko/Vasiliev Systema has been influenced by Kadachnikov Systema however as I think the Kadachnikov style is more prevalent in the Russian military as a whole.

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by budoboy
    From what I understand from Vlad, Mikhail's training was less systematic in the past and more about dishing out beatings.
    I study under Viktor Sirotin in Seattle who trained under Ryabko in the Soviet Union. He is not part of Ryabko/Vasiliev systema but he corraborates the above statement and a number of other things that Ryabko & Vasiliev have to say about the style including:

    1. Ryabko is/was (I don't know his current status) a colonel in the spetsnaz.
    2. Ryabko systema was taught only to select units and usually only as unit/mission specific cqc training (there was no fanfare introducing "Ryabko Systema")

    This is not quite the independent corraboration that you seek but it does come from outside of the community.
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