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  1. OnceLost is offline
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    12/21/2006 1:05pm

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     Style: Ke?po, MMA ultra-newb

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    We can only hope you were resisting to make it an 'alive' training drill
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     Style: submission grappling

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost
    We can only hope you were resisting to make it an 'alive' training drill
    Have you ever had someone try to clock you with a pugel stick? You can bet your swee a$$ that I was resisting. Also if the DI thought you weren't Gung Ho enuff in your resistance getting thumped in the pit was the least of your worries.


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    I wasn't talking about you, M1K3, I was responding to this...
    simulate!?!?!!....my ass still hurts
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     Style: submission grappling

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost
    I wasn't talking about you, M1K3, I was responding to this...
    Ahhhh, my bad.

    *shakes head and wanders off to a quite corner of the room to sulk*
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    That's alright, man...if it makes you feel better, I'll hire a korean girl named Gung Ho to spank you with a pugel stick.
  6. Askari is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/21/2006 2:10pm


     Style: BJJ, Ju-Jitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaroge
    Also, I had my funny bone ripped out by Vladimir Vasiliev.
    http://www.russianmartialart.com/

    My suggestion is that you simply walk in and ask Vlad if you can see his certificates proving he was in the Russian military.
    "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't **** with me!"
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    12/21/2006 2:20pm


     Style: Systema/ninjutsu

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    "On August 31, 2006 an official reception in the honour of the Special Forces members was held in Saint George lounge in the Kremlin. Mikhail Vasilievich Ryabko was invited by Vladimir Putin for the reception and was conferred with medal Spetsnaz of Russia" which is one of the forms of public acknowledgment with respect to the efforts of armed forces personnel".

    He is genuine, well respected and is a high ranking officer (Colonel/General) in the Russian Military. Travelled to Moscow on a number of occassions and have observed this at first hand.
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    I thought he was a former officer, now retired...?
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by StinkyFlower
    As you pointed out it doesn't really make much sence for special forces to spend a lot of time on hand to hand combat as they are armed.
    Except that even the military folks are surprised in close quarters, they need a moment to reload, and it's a skill (unlike setting up a Claymore) that takes time to refine...

    Also, since they most likely are strong and fast to begin with they can rely more and brute force and reflexes then us average Joes. I'm sure they can learn what they need from any basic boxing & wrestling style. No real need for their art to be more then that (and will probably mostly be used as a physical drill anyway).
    Not necessarily wrong, but not necessarily right, either...

    It's hard to me to understand why people who wants to learn hand to hand arts look to military men (as military men are trained for armed conflict and to fight in groups).
    Certainly. And there are times when shooting a guy isn't feasible or practical. Then what?

    Not that I would want to fight a special forces person in hand to hand combat but that's because they're strong, fast, used to pain and determined. Not because I think their technique would be necessarily be superior.
    You misunderstand and underestimate the nature of military training.

    It wouldn't surprise me if special forces uses systema as a training method, that doesn't make systema a superior (or more interesting) art in my mind. It simply shows that systema is a basic self defense system (like most other arts would be as well)
    From my experience, the Systema folks I've met haven't really presented it as anything other than another fighting method.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: armchair asswuppin

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    Quote Originally Posted by systemavin
    "On August 31, 2006 an official reception in the honour of the Special Forces members was held in Saint George lounge in the Kremlin. Mikhail Vasilievich Ryabko was invited by Vladimir Putin for the reception and was conferred with medal Spetsnaz of Russia" which is one of the forms of public acknowledgment with respect to the efforts of armed forces personnel".

    He is genuine, well respected and is a high ranking officer (Colonel/General) in the Russian Military. Travelled to Moscow on a number of occassions and have observed this at first hand.
    Systemaven, do you have any sources for these claims?
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