Thread: Unhealthy to be chocked?
12/17/2006 1:19pm, #11
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- Sep 2004
- Soviet State Of Kalifornia
i.e. Don't choke Helio..
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness
12/17/2006 4:40pm, #12
Hmmm, chocking release the plague from your viens.
12/17/2006 5:48pm, #13
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- Oct 2006
Thanks for the replies. Just to be clear, I'm not getting choked unconscious, and I try to tap quickly, but often times a choke just comes on really quickly. I remember reading in another thread that cops weren't allowed to use the rear naked choke anymore because some people were ending up with damage to their arteries. Is this due to them choking the person unconscious?
12/17/2006 5:51pm, #14
Check out the stuff on these two pages:
"Moreover, scientific studies on choking reveal no deleterious after effects."
Also, from what I remember from reading, I think it turned out that some cops just didn't understand the difference between blood and air chokes, and were crushing peoples' windpipes left and right. There was a big stint with the LAPD and Daryl Gates, no?
12/18/2006 12:42am, #15
Do you mind if I ask what your fascination with flamingos stems from?
12/18/2006 4:56pm, #16
Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
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12/18/2006 5:03pm, #17
~looks around~ this thread isn't in DHS, right?
It could be unhealthy to not be chocked. Truck might roll down the ramp and crush you.
Chock (action shot)
12/18/2006 5:11pm, #18
So I was rolling with this 260 pound brown belt monster at my school, and he was armbaring me and I was defending. Then he countered it with this move where he let go of my arm and spun around so my neck was trapped between his shins, he had his feet crossed, then he scisored his legs crushing my trachea in between them. It was the most brutal air choke that I've ever felt. I tapped quick, but not quick enough. I was coughing, and I tried to cool my throat with some water. But some damage was definitely done. In the next week my throat become infected and my tonsils swelled up. I went on antibiotics, which made me all better until I went off of them, then the infection came back. Over the next 6 months I repeated this cycle until finally I was referred to a ENT who scheduled a tonsilectomy. The surgery took about a month to fully recover from, it was pretty rough. Now I can say with absolute certainty that my immune system is not what it used to be before this painful 8 month episode.
So yes, according to my experience it can be quite unhealthy to be choked. Even after all this I still love zhoo zhitsu.
12/20/2006 10:12pm, #19
BSD's horror story aside, research on judoka says that it's not a big deal to get choked with blood or wind chokes as long as they aren't sustained for a particularly long time.
12/20/2006 10:21pm, #20Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
Although I'm seriously considering going with "Pingo" from now on, thanks to M1K3's amazing post.