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  1. Matt Bernius is offline

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    One other note, understand that bases often have discretionary funds to bring in seminar instructors. Asia can definitely comment on this. But the thing to understand is that a commander at Fort Hood, for example, might bring in an instructor for a seminar. That's different than being hired by the central military to work on their programs.

    Unfortunately a number of "less than ethical" instructors have conflated the former to equal the latter.

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    Here's looking at you, squid.

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    It also had a section on SERE training which looked pretty hardcore -- the old 'sneak up and stab through the neck while pinching the nostrils so they don't squeal' techniques and such.
    SERE is Survival Evasion Resistence Escape school. My instructor happened to be a SERE instructor (prior to leaving the US Navy as a Senior Chief) and one of the students at the school went through SERE. SERE doesn't teach stealth kills or combat. It prepares at-risk military personnel for the possibility of being captured as POWs. Read the wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SERE.

    The guy sounds delusional.
  3. Skinnywhiteguy is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost
    SERE is Survival Evasion Resistence Escape school. My instructor happened to be a SERE instructor (prior to leaving the US Navy as a Senior Chief) and one of the students at the school went through SERE. SERE doesn't teach stealth kills or combat.
    In the video it was instructed by the same Officer -- I must have incorrectly lumped them together. The SERE portion also showed clips of a class on how to skin and eat a live snake (and overcoming the aversion to do it) etc.
  4. OnceLost is offline
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    Now the snake skinning thing is more consistent with what Jerry talks about...
  5. JP is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Ok, back to Liu Seong. For those with sharp eyes and memories, that's the system that Phil Elmore is currently working on. I can't speak for that program. I'm pretty sure I met his instructor years ago at seminars given in Rochester by Mr. Salamone. I wouldn't hold any ideological issues this board has with Phil against Reeder's system.

    Hope all that helps.


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    http://www.tibetantaichi.com/LiuSeong.htm

    Apparently his chinese name was Liu Seong, but his dutch was Willem Reeders.

    And frankly, **** Phil Elmore, I would never confuse him with anybody else....:phil2:

    Don't mind me, I'm being a crankly little bitch, but the Liu Seong thing is true, and so is "**** phil elmore"
  6. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Heh, there's a guy 100 feet away from me that teaches Kun Tao
  7. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP
    Ok, back to Liu Seong. For those with sharp eyes and memories, that's the system that Phil Elmore is currently working on. I can't speak for that program. I'm pretty sure I met his instructor years ago at seminars given in Rochester by Mr. Salamone. I wouldn't hold any ideological issues this board has with Phil against Reeder's system.

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    Mr. Salamone? BWHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.....oh, jeez, the irony of it all. Would anybody like to talk to Mr. Salomone? I talk to Joe all the time.
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    Posted On:
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    If you watch all of his videos of the "seminar" he apparently helped cure cancer and photophobia( temporary loss of vision).

    Any self defense stuff I saw seemed like a bunch of slapping and jumping. Yes I saw them jump in the air prior to and during their attacks.

    Lastly, it seems Kun Tao guys are so fast they can deflect a kick, roll under the person and trip them all before the leg is retracted.

    Did I mention they learn to attack before the bad guys finish forming the thought to attack in the first place?
  9. Naszir is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by I got Scrooged
    Mr. Salamone? BWHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.....oh, jeez, the irony of it all. Would anybody like to talk to Mr. Salomone? I talk to Joe all the time.
    Seriously, Omega you're like the Kevin Bacon of MA's...except with a better chin.
  10. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naszir
    Seriously, Omega you're like the Kevin Bacon of MA's...except with a better chin.
    Your analogy is lost upon me.:emo:
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