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  1. sheltrk is offline

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     Style: Taekwondo

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    AIMAA & Grandmaster Hee Il Cho

    In another thread that was derailed, Grandmaster Hee Il Cho has been denigrated as both "some TKD fag", and as someone with no "actual fighting ability". Also, it was claimed that he is only known as a "point sparring" champion.

    I maintain that he is a well-respected martial artist. His AIMAA organization endorses full-contact, hard training against fully-resisting opponents, with hand techniques that borrow heavily from boxing. (I've read the he was a competitive boxer at one time.) He teaches hard core Taekwondo with head punches and low kicking. Futhermore, although his organization is based on Taekwondo, takedowns and grappling are trained as an important part of the curriculuum, and are recoginzed as a necessary part of being a complete fighter.

    In my opinion, these values are consistent with the message of Bullshido.

    So, is AIMAA, (and by extension, Grandmaster Cho) the real deal? Or is AIMAA really just impressively packaged Bullshido?

    Discuss. Prove me right or prove me wrong.
  2. Askari is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/14/2006 1:42pm


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    Right off the bad I see a couple of red flags, so I will dig around more then that.

    This thread needs videos and pics.
    Video of a "Cho's tournament" Is this his? So we can see the hands down style of fighting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtMgCPyU3Io

    [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtMgCPyU3Io[/MEDIA]

    Next we find the ever so popular Home Study Program:
    http://www.aimaa.com/homestudyprogram.html
    Grandmaster Hee Il Cho
    Home Study Informative Guide
    And you can get a Black Belt from home http://www.aimaa.com/homestudyprogram.html#section3
    You may submit video performances for testing every two months at the beginning level, every two to four months at the intermediate level, and every four to six months at the advanced level. By following this time guide Black Belt can be achieved within approximately 3 1/2 - 4 years.

    Edited to add; OMG I think I have this Black Belt magazine with him on the cover:
    Last edited by Askari; 12/14/2006 1:44pm at .
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  3. King Sleepless is offline
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    Posted On:
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    From a source of which I'm not allowed to speak of, who is DIRECTLY tied to the man himself. The schools in America are not full contact fighting schools. They do spar, but not full contact. However, the schools outside of America are FULL CONTACT and train for Kickboxing and Muay Thai fighting and as I understand it, MMA.
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    12/14/2006 1:47pm


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    I have a point for him. He was the "Korean Coach" in the best TKD movie of all time:

    BEST OF THE BEST
    http://imdb.com/name/nm0158633/



    So he truly cant be all bad, even with a home study course.
    Last edited by Askari; 12/14/2006 1:50pm at .
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    he was in bloodsport 2 i guess...
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    Posted On:
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    I personally think Cho is one of the saving graces of TKD. Anybody who would talk about him I invite to visit him in Arizona and say it to his face. He started grappling curriculum with the Gracies long before UFC reared its head. For a man of his age he's in phenominal shape. I have one of his blackbelts training with me and his techniques are really solid so there you go for all it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirc
    From a source of which I'm not allowed to speak of, who is DIRECTLY tied to the man himself. The schools in America are not full contact fighting schools. They do spar, but not full contact. However, the schools outside of America are FULL CONTACT and train for Kickboxing and Muay Thai fighting and as I understand it, MMA.
    And why is that?

    BTW, I've heard grandmaster's daughter is hot, requesting pics.
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    And why is that?
    I'm guessing lawsuits and parents wanting their kids not getting damaged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rokutanda
    I'm guessing lawsuits and parents wanting their kids not getting damaged.
    Sucks to be USA, I guess.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheltrk
    In another thread that was derailed, Grandmaster Hee Il Cho has been denigrated as both "some TKD fag", and as someone with no "actual fighting ability".
    Ha.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheltrk
    So, is AIMAA, (and by extension, Grandmaster Cho) the real deal?
    Yes.

    It is the real Taekwondo.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheltrk
    Or is AIMAA really just impressively packaged Bullshido?
    With the possible exception of the video testing program, it is completely un-Bullshido.
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