Dinosaur Bodyweight Training is retarded

**Phrost** · Posted On: 12/14/2006 8:47pm

This thread's getting dumped into Trollshido unless we get 1. a useful title, and 2. back on the topic.

**Flash Jackson** · Posted On: 12/15/2006 12:08am

then change the topic to Workout Bullshido: End the Torment!

this topic should be about what is true and false in the world of fitness. post your Matt Furey, your Farmer Burns, your Brooks Kubik, your everything. post your hilarious links. reverse punch your way to fitness.

speaking of Matt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_furey

Quote from jolly roger, a poster on www.bodyweightculture.com

I think Matt Furey is a total rip-off.
He sells a course for fixing carpal-tunnel syndrome which includes several free gifts, one of which is a green rubber donut from China which he claims has a value of $25,- (I think you can also buy it seperately).
I dicovered a pack including TWO of those donuts at Wal-Mart Germany for €3,89,- thats about $3,60,- Laughing
http://www.combatconditioning.com/ca...unnel_fix.html (check gift #2)

**PirateJon** · Posted On: 12/15/2006 7:10am

Title: Dinosaur Bodyweight Training is retarded.

Why?

Dinosaur Bodyweight Training is more than a mere-muscle building program. The course develops your body the natural way: from the inside out. It builds strong, powerful, perfectly functioning internal organs. It strengthens and fortifies all of the internal processes. It builds a body bursting with energy, vigor and vitality.

Because that's retarded.

**Truculent Sheep** · Posted On: 12/15/2006 8:21am

"Bodyweight Training: For And Against"

Just to get the thread on track, I've been doing lots of bodyweight squats lately and my flexibility and leg strength has noticeably improved... While it doesn't work the same magic as lifting weights, it does let the muscles you've already got operate more efficiently...

Whether being taught the bleeding obvious for $700 is really worth it is another matter altogether.

There. Now could the experts on this subject please take over?

**PirateJon** · Posted On: 12/15/2006 1:42pm

I don't think there much to discuss... But I'm certainly no expert - just an asshole with an opinion, a 5mb internet pipe, and a lot of free time.

Everyone can agree that bodyweight exercise is good. I love me a little bit of yoga, which is bodyweight exercise + stretching. Who hasn't done a push-up or jumping-jack?

Still, it's not a substitute for real weight training. It won't build up your internal organs, improve your digestion, or give you the strength of 5 gorillas.

And paying for it? I'd be really skeptical it's worth any amount of money with all the awesome free resources out there. http://bodyweightculture.com is a good one - I forget who posted it but props to them.

Still, I'm glad that "Dinosaur Bodyweight Training" is in the title so the search engine crawlers can pick it up. with luck no one will waste their money. exersise bullshido FTL.

**ironlurker** · Posted On: 12/26/2006 3:19pm

Hope this doesn't count as thread necromancy, but I just wanted to add that I've seen a copy of the book of the course in question (I'm not sure how many cd's, dvd's, teleseminars etc. go along with it for a few dollars more). The original book, from 1997, only cost about 20$. Kubik was one of those who researched and revived the training methods of the strongmen like Inch, Sandow, and so on, and he got some cred for it. Nine years later, it has morphed into a "course" that costs 197$. The cost to belong to the Dinosaur Training Forum (aka the Inner Circle)? 197$ (not a typo, 197$ as well for the forum alone, per year). Weight-training was de-emphasized in favor of bodyweight exercises. What happened in those nine years? The new book constantly references Matt Furey ("I was talking to Matt during breakfast after a seminar"). Yup, looks like some sales expertise was shared, and we go from credible and interesting revival of old training methods to secrets and inner circles. And now the book has gems like this:
THE STANDARD PUSHUP WITH KI FOCUS
"Combine the standard pushup with the concentrated channeling of ki . . . you should see and feel results in the first few taining sessions . . . Begin by learning to channel ki . . . In the previous exercise, I asked you to channel air, just as if you were breathing"
(Oh ok, so by ki he means deep breathing? Focus and concentration? A helpful visualization to fire the muscles up? I can buy that, but wait a sec . . .)
"But understand this. You were not merely breathing. You were summoning, cultivating, acquiring, and channeling ki"
Oh snap! Yes, don't be mistaken, this is "energy channeling", not any scientific phenomenon. Not to get into the whole ki/qi/chi debate, but with the super high price and sales pitch, this is a blatant attempt to rope in the LARPer who has come to the realization "gee, maybe I should do some pushups."

**Lights Out** · Posted On: 12/26/2006 5:01pm

197$ to do push-ups?

Bugger off!!

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