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  1. Slydermv is offline

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     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Well... I was just answering your question. The SBK it prolly most trained in TKD anyways and I was using it as an example.

    Plus... I agree... you gotta have your bread and butter when it comes to KB or MMA.... but a SBK, a spin hook, or even an axe if you can use it can only add to your game. If you want to give me a tech that you figure is common in TKD, I'm sure I can find a person or two who use it effectively, but obviously, a spin hook is never gonna replace a jab.

    Same with MT if you look at it. Flying Knees for example are a low percentage, high risk technique... but are nice to add to the arsenal if you can pull them off.

    I'm not trying to debate that WTF TKD makes great fighter... but it has some things to add in terms of techs and footwork/evasion. It's good to know what's out there I say to learn to deal with it.

    Hell... look at sport BJJ. Some techs will get you murdered if you try them in MMA (like shrimping out of mount)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slydermv
    Well... I was just answering your question. The SBK it prolly most trained in TKD anyways and I was using it as an example.

    Plus... I agree... you gotta have your bread and butter when it comes to KB or MMA.... but a SBK, a spin hook, or even an axe if you can use it can only add to your game. If you want to give me a tech that you figure is common in TKD, I'm sure I can find a person or two who use it effectively, but obviously, a spin hook is never gonna replace a jab.

    Same with MT if you look at it. Flying Knees for example are a low percentage, high risk technique... but are nice to add to the arsenal if you can pull them off.

    I'm not trying to debate that WTF TKD makes great fighter... but it has some things to add in terms of techs and footwork/evasion. It's good to know what's out there I say to learn to deal with it.

    Hell... look at sport BJJ. Some techs will get you murdered if you try them in MMA (like shrimping out of mount)
    If you're already mounted shrimping isn't going to make things worse. Your opponent should rightfully be murdering you.

    Even though WTF seems continuous and hard contact etc. anyone who compares it to a kickboxing/MMA match can see that something is just drastically off. Though TKDers and MTers seem to both practice low percentage moves like you said it just seems like the MTers are vastly superior at the basics of stand up the majority of the time.

    I cite MT's dominance in kickboxing as an example in the face of TKD being the most popular MA in the world.
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    Posted On:
    12/10/2006 3:57am

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    The systems are irregardless.

    If the SBK, and the tactics surrounding it's use are valid, thenthey are vaild no matter who is throwing the SBK, the TKDer, the Kyokushinka, the JKDer.

    Technique in the end is nothing.

    Strategy and tactics are the determining factors.
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    12/10/2006 10:54am


     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    If you're already mounted shrimping isn't going to make things worse. Your opponent should rightfully be murdering you.

    Even though WTF seems continuous and hard contact etc. anyone who compares it to a kickboxing/MMA match can see that something is just drastically off. Though TKDers and MTers seem to both practice low percentage moves like you said it just seems like the MTers are vastly superior at the basics of stand up the majority of the time.

    I cite MT's dominance in kickboxing as an example in the face of TKD being the most popular MA in the world.
    Absolutely, but the better option would be to pull your opponent in and bridge, rather then push on his legs and shimp so you get your face pounded even worse.

    MT rule set is less restrictive... and I agree... but the point I was trying to make is... a little flash is good.
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    12/10/2006 3:51pm

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     Style: TKD, Relson GJJ, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slydermv
    David Liouaseau
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    Stephan Bonnar
    Benny "the Jet"


    Just off the top of my head.... ****... look up spinning back kick on Youtube and you'll see tons of KB matches ended with an SBK.
    Don't forget Dennis Alexio. Kicks courtosy of TKD, BTW.
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