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  1. IndoChinese is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/30/2003 2:01am


     Style: Liu Seong Gung Fu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i dont know if this particular topic has been covered... oh well.


    to all you groundfighters,

    you fight the way you train.

    so, if you train takedowns, mounts, etc., when you get into a real fight, more than likely you will 'shoot'.

    i am sure many will say that they would not do this, and would strike instead. that is not my point. this is.

    saying you take him down, there is very simple tactic on the street that is used to reverse a losing position...biting your ear off.

    i personally know of three people who have had their ears bitten off, well pieces of them, at least. one was real bad, half his ear was taken off, and later reattached. but trust me, it aint the same.

    this is a specific danger with long lasting consequences.

    my question is do you train to deal with that potential?

    in poekulan, we are taught as well to avoid our opponent's mouth, as it is considered a weapon. we actually do 'bite checks'with some movements. and some poekulan people also grow their nails out and use them as makeshift claws( watch out for your eyes). these two weapons can be a hazard, even if you win you could be scarred or damaged for life. once i even heard about a guy who got his nose bitten off, now that is nasty. dont know if its true, but i am sure it has been done more than once before.

    just a thought...

    peace.

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  2. SLJ is offline

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    Trying to bite someone who's mounted on top of you is a good way to get elbowed, punched or a limb broken.

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  3. deus ex machina is offline
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    Posted On:
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    If someone bit me, I'd shank him until his grandkids bled to death. Then I'd choke him out.

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  4. SLJ is offline

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    No you wouldn't Deus, the mighty BITE would completely take you off the planet! You wouldn't even be able to control your body under the power of the deadly bite.

    *Wanders off to train the deadly BITE! And solve all his self-defence problems*

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    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

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  5. Fatality Dragon is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/30/2003 3:11pm


     Style: Muay Thai and boxing

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    hey SLJ you should file your teeth so it is pointed like jaw. It would even freak Abbott Tank out enough to allows you win by scaring him to death!

    It is a rat eat rat world.

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  6. Beatdown Richie is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/30/2003 3:26pm

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    From what position exactly do you propose to bit the ear? And what does that achieve other than freaking the other guy out?

    Eyegouging with long fingernails would probably suck, but in a good solid mount, you're not likely to reach you opponent's eyes anyway. Sidemount sounds slightly more realistic...
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  7. Blad3 is offline

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    Posted On:
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    You may be KOed by the time you reach the floor. If not they'd be working for a position/punching you...and you'd have your motuh wide open...

    But there's a possibility that you may be able to bite if you're on TOP (maybe the bottom), which is why grapplers would be "better" at biting than the average MAist - they'd be incontrol for the most part.

    Biting somebody when you're mounting them isn't necessarily that difficult I shouldn't think.

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    Posted On:
    7/30/2003 10:37pm


     Style: BJJ

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    The teeth of my opponent will impact my fist or elbow with deadly results.

    In a street fight, I'm not going to try submitting an opponent unless:

    (1) I'm in side control and my opponent has really pissed me off

    (2) My opponent gives me a back mount by rolling from mount. RNC after a few shots to the back of the head

    (3) Through some miracle, my opponent manages to get into my guard. Armbar/Kimura/Modified Sleeve Choke or T-Shirt choke.

    I don't train specifically for the possibility of being bitten from mount, although I'm almost always far enough away from the head to avoid it.



    Edited by - NSLightsOut on July 30 2003 23:00:13
  9. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/31/2003 12:50am

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    It is possible for someone to bite you in a fight.

    The trick is to bite them first :)
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  10. noodles is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/31/2003 1:08am

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    "And what does that [ear biting] achieve other than freaking the other guy out?"

    Not that I'm advocating ear biting, but I think kuntao touches on a valid point here. I don't think you should look at it as "what does your opponent gain". Assume your opponent is trying to inflict a hell of a lot of damage on you without a set plan. The ears are right there and most people (myself included) don't really guard them unless there's a strike coming, leaving them open to twisting, biting, etc. If you're tough enough you can disregard the pain long enough to destroy your opponent. You're also left with a mangled ear.

    I'm not saying this is a likely scenario. Unlike kuntao, I don't know of a single time it's happened, but I remember a kickboxer/bouncer recommending ear biting to me years ago so it's not like nobody's ever thought of it. I do think that getting out of a fight with the least damage to yourself possible, as opposed to just winning, should be a training goal.
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