12/05/2006 12:59pm, #11
12/05/2006 1:41pm, #12Originally Posted by Anthony
I would like to hear a first hand account of the story and see the reaction of some who carried the weapon for years with no problem. I have no idea about your friend so Im not going to assume anything here but it could be he reached into his pocket and sqeuzed of a round, stranger things have happend. Im not a big fan of firearms in pants pockets anyway from a safty point of view.
Some of the other autos in the picture can go off easily upon dropping them, There is a well known case that happend in Little Rock where a lady dropped her purse in a cleaners and shot and killed the attendent.
12/05/2006 2:02pm, #13Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
Displacement was a shortcut word. When comparing a revolver to a auto the revolver already has its rounds chambered verses the auto which must have the rounds fed into its single chamber. Six revolving chambers verses one chamber which is fed multiple times by motion which is just always going to be less reliable.
The problem with ammo clips has always been ammo jiggiling around within the clip, whenever I have carried any doublestack clips I take out the loaded clip and tap it to set the ammo back inline evertime I think about it. AR 15s are notrious about being sensitive to the way the ammo lays within a clip but handguns can be the same. If you upset the ammo within a clip it might not feed correctly which is a reliability issue. Cheeper auto pistols are always a candidate for ammo feeding issues.
A revolver will always be more reliable and a auto will always offer more firepower and easier reloading. From there it just gets into scenarios of use and personal observations and choices.
12/05/2006 2:09pm, #14Originally Posted by ar549
12/05/2006 2:12pm, #15Originally Posted by ar549
12/05/2006 2:18pm, #16
I have a beretta bobcat, which is the .22 version of the tomcat. Very compact, fit perfectly in my front pocket with a pocket holster. Accurate for it's size too. However, I found it to be very finicky with ammo. CCI Stingers were about the only thing I could shoot through it with any reliability. CHeap ammo jams the gun every few shots. OTOH, I knew a Deputy that carried one as a back-up and loved it. Never gave him any problems.
12/05/2006 2:35pm, #17Originally Posted by Anthony
Sounds like a weird deal but stranger things have happend, I admit I have a fasination with the P7 series of weapons so Im more interested in the story from that angle than to go negative.
I had a Winchester 30-30 fire with the breach open which knocked the hell out of my hand and worse caused me to miss a ferral cat that I was trying to kill, I had already shot two and it would have made three withen a few seconds. Nobody wanted to believe that accidental discharge story but now I wouldnt have one of the things and they were a favorite brush gun of mine for years.
12/05/2006 6:26pm, #18
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Hmm, my mother has a P32 she is quite enamored with (my father as well though he has a PPK)
Got an uncle who just this thanksgiving had a P7 with him. I had never seen one until then. Cant take his word for it though, he's a security consultant and if his equipment and clothing is any indication, an HK one at that...
12/05/2006 7:25pm, #19
I fired a P7 before, I thought the squeeze cock thing was interesting. I did like the pistol but when it's owner told me how much he paid for it I decided it was to rich for my blood.
12/06/2006 12:53am, #20Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
Its best carried in some type of holster and is very concealable, thus the special intrest by some users. Overall its a classic but Im afraid it will never be produced again although I have played with the idea of making them on a limeted bases, lots of paperwork is required but there is now H&K manufacturing in Thailand. Who knows, It would be a cool project but the product would be big time pricey?