wing chun wooden dummy

**kgubbins** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 12:02am

does anyone here use a wooden dummy for either wing chun or any other style for training? i dont' have much exerience with it and was wondering if it's worth having...

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 12:12am

Since owning one turns your into a complete dork, I'd say buy a heavybag instead. Note that the bag only counts if hung from a moving chain and not made out of a duct-taped corpse.

**Boyd** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 12:20am

Yeah, and make sure it's made out of canvas or sand instead of human screams and the tears of small children.

**kgubbins** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 12:26am

Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath

Since owning one turns your into a complete dork, I'd say buy a heavybag instead. Note that the bag only counts if hung from a moving chain and not made out of a duct-taped corpse.

lol nice.....yeah i was also thinking of getting a heavy bag.....what style(s) do you practice?

**alex** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 12:45am

those wooden dummy things are useless and gurantee you to never get laid. get a heavy bag.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 1:00am

plus they seem to cost a fucking fortune.

**Boyd** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 2:46am

http://www.woodendummy.com/prices.html

Three. Hundred. Dollars. Shipping.

**feedback** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 3:22am

jesus you can get a paralyzed man for cheaper than that, and you can position him however you want.

**spirez** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 5:53am

There are a couple in my gym but they're rarely used.

Supposed to help with sensitivity training, which can't be a bad thing if it actually works. Also conditions the arms too and builds up strength/muscle endurance that you can't get from weight training.

I did a BJJ/Kali seminar with Rick Young a while back and at the end we just did about 15 minutes of Chi Sao or whatever it's called from Wing Chun. I didn't find it useful specifically for my training but damn, it does hurt your shoulders and arms after 10 constant minutes!

If it does condition the arms well then i might learn some of the sets. Would surely be of some use when it comes to using the arms to block high kicks/knees etc?

But in reference to your first question, i wouldn't bother wasting the money on one myself.

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 12/03/2006 6:53am

Unless you are training wing chun, I wouldn't consider a dummy.

If you are training wing chun, I would suggest that you spend your time on a heavy bag for a considerable length of time before starting to work on the dummy.

In wing chun, the dummy is not really used for sensitivity, or arm conditioning (though arm conditioning can sometimes be a secondary benefity). It is used to train proper technique, footwork, and transitions (at least that is what I was taught).

For most wing chun people the dummy is just another empty form (IMO). Without the applications ("decontructing the dummy"), it is useless. Legend has it that Yip Man only taught the actually applications of the dummy to about 5 people or so. I'm not sure how true that it, Tom Kagan would be a good one to ask.