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Iron Dog Gym
Iron Dog Gym
Published by Dr._Tzun_Tzu
11-30-2006
Member rating
Aliveness
26.7%26.7%26.7%
2.67
Equipment
34.4%34.4%34.4%
3.44
Gym Size
25.6%25.6%25.6%
2.56
Instructor/Student Ratio
40%40%40%
4.00
Atmosphere/Attitude
42.2%42.2%42.2%
4.22
Striking Instruction
30%30%30%
3.00
Grappling Instruction
14.4%14.4%14.4%
1.44
Weapons Instruction
35.6%35.6%35.6%
3.56
Iron Dog Gym

My Martial Art school teaches _ing __un (Wing Tzun) and Latosa Escrima Weapons System. It is located in a garage and backyard in Sacramento, California. The school is operated by a First Level Technician in WT who has the 10th Student Grade in Latosa Weapons System (LWS). He is a Licensed instructor for EBMAS and has been licensed since 1998 and published an article in Inside Kung Fu Magizine in Sept. 2005. His name is Jeffrey Cox.

This is an Emin Boztepe Martial Art System (EBMAS) school. We have seminars from Si-fu Emin Boztepe, Rene Latosa, Sifu Micheal Casey and others for new material and for testing. We then work together to practice this material on our own.


The Sacramento School is the hub of the Northern California EBMAS region. We have other EBMAS groups in Eureka/Arcata, Woodland, Davis, Fairfield, San Fransisco, and Petaluma.

The training we do is from a Traditional Approach. He have 2 basic forms in WT for beginners which are a solo practice to get the mechanics, then we have arranged partner sets to learn the way the techniques from the forms should fit together. Finally, we have Applications where the movement is attempted in a more realistic way, with various levels of resistance and aliveness. Free sparring is rarely done at full contact power, but it is done in various degrees of power, contact, aliveness, and resistance, once the student has some control over the techniques in the regular drills.

As a traditional System, the goal is to take the movements from solo forms through partner drills into freestyle applications. Sparring then is a test to see if the partner sets are working and not the primary method of training. The students must learn the partner sets and then the instructor must make sure the sets are randomized so as to have no set patterns.

Latosa Escrima begins with an Warm Up exercise set, like a form, and then partner drills. The Warm Up is to start new people with some solo work so they can learn to take directions and perform the movements. We do not wear gloves or any protection in training. Your stick is your only protection. Since you should not have full contact sparring with weapons due to the danger, escrima has many drills each with an element removed for safety. Sparring with padded sticks and helmets is done to test out your skills and look for errors. As you progress the Warm Up Exercise does too, to match your technical growth. This is why it is not considered a form, you can do it anyway you wish and it changes over time.

Both systems involve fighting at the long kicking range, punching, elbowing, kneeing, clinching, throwing, and ground fighting ranges. Admittedly, ground fighting is rarely taught in the beginning stages as we teach the students to use the stand up methods on the ground, so they must first learn them in the other ranges. WT is more Traditional and LWS is more Freestyle. Together they combine very nicely.

Uniforms are not required, but students should wear white shirts and black pants. Membership in EBMAS worldwide is required. Lessons begin at no cost until they miss a class, then tuition is $60 a month. Tuition is required whether you attend or not, once you join, unless other arrangements are made. You are paying for the opportunity, not the material.

The Gym has a large outside deck for training, a smaller deck overlooking a pond for forms and close-in training. The Garage has a 10 by 10 foot area for training in bad weather, a 125 lbs. Heavy bag, a 6 panel-wall bag, a PVC Wooden Dummy, a grappling horse dummy, and 2 wall mirrors. A large grassy area is also used for stick fighting and wrestling(on a tarp). 1/2inch floor mat is used for grappling on the ground. All Gloves, Chest protectors, shin guards, head gear, sticks, and equipment is provided, student needs only to buy a mouth guard and cup, but they are encouraged to buy their own gloves and other equipment and learn to take care of it themselves. Kettle ball type weights are a new experiment.


Contact EBMAS.USA@gmail.com if interested in being interviewed for membership.




edit:9:50 PM- Modified to fit Phrost rating scale. Not sure how often these things need to occur. Every class? Every Week? Monthly? I guess if something doesn't happen atleast once a month it shouldn't count at all for this thread.


edit: added website link
Cost (per session/week/month/year)
$60 per Month, 3 times/week
Full Contact Fight Team?
No
Kids Classes?
No
School's Website
IronDogGym.moonfruit.com
School Address
Sacramento, California, USA

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  #1  
By Boyd on 11-30-2006, 01:56 PM
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Atmosphere/Attitude
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Striking Instruction
10%10%10%
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Grappling Instruction
10%10%10%
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Weapons Instruction
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All the included pictures look like crime scene photos. At the very least you're guilty of libel against Aliveness for using its name in conjunction with a Wing Chun school.
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  #2  
By Boyd on 11-30-2006, 02:22 PM
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Grappling Instruction
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Weapons Instruction
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TONIGHT ON COURT TV: They came in for a martial arts lesson. What they got...was Wing Chun
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  #3  
By Dr._Tzun_Tzu on 11-30-2006, 02:30 PM
Member reviews
Aliveness
70%70%70%
7
Equipment
70%70%70%
7
Gym Size
60%60%60%
6
Instructor/Student Ratio
80%80%80%
8
Atmosphere/Attitude
80%80%80%
8
Striking Instruction
80%80%80%
8
Grappling Instruction
50%50%50%
5
Weapons Instruction
70%70%70%
7
Boyd, go sit on your thumb again, or are you up to three fingers now? We do alive training and it is an Escrima school too.

Can people troll this section or what?
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  #4  
By Shuma-Gorath on 11-30-2006, 02:33 PM
Member reviews
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Equipment
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Instructor/Student Ratio
10%10%10%
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Atmosphere/Attitude
20%20%20%
2
Striking Instruction
10%10%10%
1
Grappling Instruction
10%10%10%
1
Weapons Instruction
20%20%20%
2
I don't think that qualifies as trolling, especially when you rated Atmosphere a 9.0 and the school looks like Maynard's basement from Pulp Fiction.
Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 10-29-2007 at 06:33 PM..
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  #5  
By Backfistmonkey on 11-30-2006, 02:41 PM
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4
Equipment
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5
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4
Instructor/Student Ratio
80%80%80%
8
Atmosphere/Attitude
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5
Striking Instruction
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4
Grappling Instruction
10%10%10%
1
Weapons Instruction
70%70%70%
7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
I don't think that qualifies as trolling, especially when you rated Atmosphere a 9.0 and the school looks like Spider's basement from Pulp Fiction.
Shuma has a very valid point . Maybe a 5 or a 6 at it's most charming season .
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  #6  
By Phrost on 11-30-2006, 02:44 PM
Well "atmosphere" is a completely subjective rating anyway.

Would love to see some of your guys' sparring on video.
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  #7  
By Boyd on 11-30-2006, 02:56 PM
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Striking Instruction
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Weapons Instruction
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Click the image to open in full size.

Just so you guys know, this is exactly what alive training looks like. Yes, I know it's instruction. But you know what? There's a universal posture, a facial expression universal to all martial stupidity. There's a tone of voice, a dumbass "I could go here...here....AND INTO AN ARMBAR!!" cadence seen in all terrible schools. And this, folks, is it.

Click the image to open in full size.

By the way, if there's any question whatsoever that your instructor is a convicted sex offender, consider that just above the wooden dummy is the box a Rapecase Delux comes in.
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  #8  
By KidSpatula on 11-30-2006, 03:02 PM
It saddens me that Dr Tzun Tzu gave this school the same rating for Aliveness that I gave my current muay thai school initially.
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  #9  
By Boyd on 11-30-2006, 03:09 PM
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Yeah, I think Aliveness varies wildly depending on what you train in. Like in Wing Chun, the idea of sparring is so completely novel and progressive that once you do it, you can jerk yourself off for the next three months on the sole virtue that WE SPAR!!!!!!! :) 10 BILLION POINTS

Whereas at a BJJ or MT school, sparring is so commonplace that I might knock a couple points off my school's score because we don't do a lot of standup.
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