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    pro nonsense self defense

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    11/26/2006 1:11am

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    Shuri Crucible

    Have any karate types read Bruce Clayton's work on the Shuri crucible theory? I just finished reading his book Shotokan's Secret and it explained a lot of karate's glossed over history, but I haven't heard opinions from actual karateka.
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    I'd be interested to hear it. Shotokan, as I understand it, is a somewhat watered down japanese version of Okinawan martial arts, what would the connection to Shuri be?
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    Guess which finger is the fickle one...

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    It was an excellent book, although I felt at times he tried to make the information fit the theory. It does give some hope that the Katas actually had a purpose in the past other than a set of conditioning drills and a syllibus of the basics of the art.
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    I haven't read the book itself, but you might want to check the discussion on it at e-budo.
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    It had a very interesting section on how much Karate has been a let down as a method of self defense and the irony of "character building", as it relates to non Japanese.

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