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  1. golok is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/14/2006 11:09pm

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    "Lieutenant X" Admits False Advertising

    Hi,

    I'm a mod on selfdefenseforums.com. I've been interested in Chris Pizzo and "Lieutenant X" for quite a while because his claims are obviously fraudulent. He got ahold of Carl Cestari's old site somehow and began using it to hawk his bullshit, redirecting it to his topsecrettraining site.

    Today he admitted that the "Lieutenant X character" was a fabrication, and claimed that he'd sold the "lieutenant X character" to some other LLC, a claim I believe to be yet another lie.

    Chris Pizzo runs a number of other suspect, spammy sites including knockoutsleep.com.

    If you search Google for his name, people claim there that he's actually a ripoff artist as well, charging people for things that they didn't order.

    I'm going to be reporting Chris Pizzo to the Federal Trade Commission as well as to authorities in New Jersey. I believe that his admission of fraud may get him in legal hot water.

    I love Bullshido, and I'm wondering if you guys have any experience with prosecuting these people. Pizzo appears to be a snake oil purveyor on a large scale and I'd like it very much if he were to get shut down hard.
  2. Plasma is online now
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    Posted On:
    11/14/2006 11:13pm

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    The Bullshido Lawyer will be by shortly to give you a very legal and PC explaination of your options.

    Browning its all yours....
  3. golok is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:04am

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    Thanks.

    Oh and!

    On this site
    http://www.nobletraining.com/Become-A-Lethal-Weapon.htm
    at the bottom, there's what I believe to be a testimonial from a nonexistant SWAT team leader.

    I believe that to be false, and to constitute impersonation of a police officer, which is a felony under New Jersey state law.
  4. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:21am

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    http://www.internetfraud.usdoj.gov/#...Internet Fraud

    Thank you, and there is more then one Bullshido lawyer, I'm just the one who is available right now.

    I'll start by suggesting you review the above link. In it you will see that the Department of Justice is coordinating with the FTC in investigating and prosecuting internet fraud. Normally internet fraud consists of identity theft and people not providing services for payment, however the website above provides an example of people selling dominican republic divorce information which was simply wrong, and that is the type of case that would apply here. That the service, and instuctional material was sold as a result of a false representation.

    Now if you can call the FTC and find out which section of the Federal Code would cover this particular type of fraudulent transaction, later this week I could find some legal cases that might help you further mold your complaint to fit one of the acceptable cubby holes they look for, before pursuing a criminal violation.

    I'd also complain to the United States Postal Inspectors which serves as the DOJ's enforcement arm, and if they are not interested to then complain to the Attorney General for the State of New Jersey to see if they can sue chris civilly for deceptive practices.

    The proposal I offer is the the following. I would be happy to do some free legal research but I need the federal agencies to tell me which section of the code applies so I do not have to waste my time searching the federal code.

    Obviously you need to transfer the thread to an archive where Chris can no longer change the text of his messages and otherwise preserve as evidence his incriminating comments.
  5. golok is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:31am

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    Thanks so much.

    I've banned both the LieutenantX account and the IACPP account that he is using so that he'll be unable to edit his posts.

    The federal code covering it would be false credentials: USC 318-319.

    We'll see how it goes. Thanks for your assistance.
  6. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:33am

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    United States Code
    TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
    PART I - CRIMES
    CHAPTER 63 - MAIL FRAUD

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    U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04
    Section 1343. Fraud by wire, radio, or television

    Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or
    artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of
    false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises,
    transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or
    television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any
    writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of
    executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title
    or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation
    affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not
    more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.


    I think that false pretenses would apply in this situation, ask the FTC if you should also contact the justice department. :)
  7. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:34am

    hall of famestaff
     

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    On the USC there is a number before the 318-319, it would be the title number, is it title 18?
  8. Sam Browning is online now

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:37am

    hall of famestaff
     

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    I would need the New Jersey statute for impersonating a police officer to give you a judgment on its applicability. I can't locate it in Find Law.
  9. polishillusion is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:41am

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    that sleep site has nasty nasty spyware, could you take it out of your original post so other people dont have to get their computer nerd friends to fix their computer like i just had to over that site. or at least a warning? thnx.
  10. golok is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2006 12:45am

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    Polishillusion: You should try running firefox.

    Mr Browning: Yes, it's 18.

    I'll find out the NJ title for impersonating a police officer tomorrow.
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