Honestly Where's Rudy Abel now ?

**patfromlogan** · Posted On: 11/09/2006 1:07pm

You could always practice Systema.

**FlyingSkull** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 3:37pm

Originally Posted by Tom Kagan

As a general rule, fat people use more soap.

There is a big difference between style bashing and expressing an opinion in a brusque manner.

How is the general rule you've quickly deduced from the bullshido consensus regarding the 'nun-who-must-not-be-named' style not helpful? Is it because you think you don't have to do your homework and actually read voluminous number of opinions on the subject already posted in this forum?

I'm not trolling you, I am genuinely curious why you have chosen to dismiss the general rule without actually taking the time to understand where that point of view comes from.

Because non-specifics "WC Sucks" adds no concrete information. I asked for info, not emotional outbursts.

**ignatzami** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 3:46pm

Originally Posted by FlyingSkull

Because non-specifics "WC Sucks" adds no concrete information. I asked for info, not emotional outbursts.

Can I ask why you revived a three year old thread to add what amounts to crap?

Can you add some substance? How about saying if you have found a school? Or if you have, what school. SOMETHING!

**FlyingSkull** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 3:46pm

Originally Posted by Tom Kagan

As a general rule, fat people use more soap.

There is a big difference between style bashing and expressing an opinion in a brusque manner.

How is the general rule you've quickly deduced from the bullshido consensus regarding the 'nun-who-must-not-be-named' style not helpful? Is it because you think you don't have to do your homework and actually read voluminous number of opinions on the subject already posted in this forum?

I'm not trolling you, I am genuinely curious why you have chosen to dismiss the general rule without actually taking the time to understand where that point of view comes from.

Because non-specifics "WC Sucks" adds no concrete information upon which someone can make a decision. I asked for info, not emotional outbursts. Even 2 years later, I still find it unhelpful. And in the meantime I've studied WC for nearly 2 years. Crap teacher=crap results, no matter what the style. And there are plenty of crap WC teachers out there, as there are with many other styles. And there's plenty of "aliveness" if practiced properly. I've learned that many people who haven't done WC simply don't understand it. It's not Neanderthal enough for them. If you're not in a horse stance throwing ram's head punches... roundhouse kicks... or rolling around on the ground, it can't possibly work. OK... let me sign off with something to make everyone happy: the only martial arts that work are BJJ... boxing... and Muay Thai. Nothing else will protect you on the streets. Now, doesn't that feel better?

**ignatzami** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 4:05pm

Originally Posted by FlyingSkull

the only martial arts that work are BJJ... boxing... and Muay Thai. Nothing else will protect you on the streets. Now, doesn't that feel better?

Glad you realize this. Now, quit WC and take up something useful. I recommend Judo.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 6:54pm

Originally Posted by FlyingSkull

I've learned that many people who haven't done WC simply don't understand it. It's not Neanderthal enough for them.

There are numerous doctors, lawyers and academics on this site. The one thing they all agree on? WC sucks.

This has nothing to do with not understanding something, it has to do with efficacy. Fighting and defending oneself is not a complicated issue. Punch (not slap) someone in the head. Bend a joint in the opposite direction intended.

If WC is complicated, that should be a clue it sucks.

For example, the general frameworks of bjj, judo, boxing, wrestling etc. are all quite simple. Intricacies may abound but the generalities are pretty damn transparent.

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 5/19/2009 10:06pm

Originally Posted by FlyingSkull

Because non-specifics "WC Sucks" adds no concrete information upon which someone can make a decision. I asked for info, not emotional outbursts. Even 2 years later, I still find it unhelpful. And in the meantime I've studied WC for nearly 2 years. Crap teacher=crap results, no matter what the style. And there are plenty of crap WC teachers out there, as there are with many other styles. And there's plenty of "aliveness" if practiced properly. I've learned that many people who haven't done WC simply don't understand it. It's not Neanderthal enough for them. If you're not in a horse stance throwing ram's head punches... roundhouse kicks... or rolling around on the ground, it can't possibly work. OK... let me sign off with something to make everyone happy: the only martial arts that work are BJJ... boxing... and Muay Thai. Nothing else will protect you on the streets. Now, doesn't that feel better?

You know why wing chun usually sucks? Because it produces douchebags like you who take it for two fucking years and think you know what the **** you are talking about.

Congratulations. I'm guessing you've learned all three forms hand forms already yet have no idea how to actually apply any of the hands. I bet you and your classmates, who also can't fight, attempt to spar on Tuesdays and Thursdays after class. I bet you have spent countless hours doing archaic exercises like shocking the pole.

How am I doing here?

**FlyingSkull** · Posted On: 7/07/2009 12:42am

Originally Posted by Southpaw

You know why wing chun usually sucks? Because it produces douchebags like you who take it for two fucking years and think you know what the **** you are talking about.

Congratulations. I'm guessing you've learned all three forms hand forms already yet have no idea how to actually apply any of the hands. I bet you and your classmates, who also can't fight, attempt to spar on Tuesdays and Thursdays after class. I bet you have spent countless hours doing archaic exercises like shocking the pole.

How am I doing here?

... to be an uneducated low-life, actually. :-)

**FlyingSkull** · Posted On: 7/07/2009 12:45am

Originally Posted by Southpaw

You know why wing chun usually sucks? Because it produces douchebags like you who take it for two fucking years and think you know what the **** you are talking about.

Congratulations. I'm guessing you've learned all three forms hand forms already yet have no idea how to actually apply any of the hands. I bet you and your classmates, who also can't fight, attempt to spar on Tuesdays and Thursdays after class. I bet you have spent countless hours doing archaic exercises like shocking the pole.

How am I doing here?

"Three forms hand forms?" I know of nothing called Three Forms Hand Forms.

**FlyingSkull** · Posted On: 7/07/2009 12:49am

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

There are numerous doctors, lawyers and academics on this site. The one thing they all agree on? WC sucks.

This has nothing to do with not understanding something, it has to do with efficacy. Fighting and defending oneself is not a complicated issue. Punch (not slap) someone in the head. Bend a joint in the opposite direction intended.

If WC is complicated, that should be a clue it sucks.

For example, the general frameworks of bjj, judo, boxing, wrestling etc. are all quite simple. Intricacies may abound but the generalities are pretty damn transparent.

Your saying, "SLAP SOMEONE IN THE HEAD" shows that you don't understand WC. You're not qualified to speak about it.