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  1. Zankou is offline

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    10/31/2006 1:09pm

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    Trouble with rolling over the shoulder sweep

    You know the one, from crossguard --- as used constantly by Pe de Pano, very slick sweep. I can almost never get the damn thing to work, however. I always end up getting lifted, without being able to unbalance my opponent enough to topple him.

    Anybody have good tips on how to get this one to be more effective? It really opens up the cross guard game.
  2. Samfoo is offline
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    Forgive the ignorant question: crossguard = x-guard?
    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    Imagine if track was run like the martial arts community. While the winning teams would just sprint down the field, smoking the competition, you'd have a bunch of losers running around explaining how they can skip down the track just as fast. Never mind that it doesn't fucking work. Oh no, they're too fast for track. They run on the STREET.
  3. Zankou is offline

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    10/31/2006 1:23pm

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    No, cross guard is the open guard in which you take a "cross" grip on your opponent's sleeve and use your other hand to grab the ankle/knee on the same side.

    It is nothing like the x-guard, except that the names are similar.
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    need pictures...because I have know idea what you are trying to say
  5. nbo10 is offline

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    10/31/2006 1:38pm

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    If you have control of the ankle, place your foot on there hip and extend your leg. They tumble over because you have control of the ankle that they could post with.
  6. Zankou is offline

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    10/31/2006 1:41pm

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    This is both the guard and the sweep that I am talking about (it happens at the end).

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+de+pano&hl=en
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    Tyrone Glover was good with this sweep too. I've played with it some, but don't do it well enough to give advice on it. I have better luck faking the sweep and rolling back for the triangle.
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    10/31/2006 2:32pm

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    This is waaaaaay out of my league!
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    10/31/2006 5:23pm

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    I've got a huge series of tutorials on cross guard and this sweep in particular that I'll be putting up soon.

    It's highly likely that you'll cream your jeans over them.
  10. Zankou is offline

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    10/31/2006 5:33pm

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    Awesome! If you include a series on helicopter sweeps from cross guard, I'm going to ruin my laundry for a week.

    Really trying to improve my sweeps from cross guard that do not utilize the omoplata ... namely the helicopter and over-the-shoulder sweeps. I can't land either type with any proficiency, even though I play tons of cross guard.
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