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  1. FreeSpeech is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai Steve
    The topics were brought up separately. The article indicated he was of Cajun/German/Judaic descent. That's a fairly odd mix. Not too many Cajun Jews running around.

    Understandable. Again thank you for your response. I was referring to the marriage question in, I think #25, being seperate from (I think #2) the other one where you asked for verifiable dates.

    Really this is just me being curious.
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    See post #767 on Keichu-Do: cajun street boxing thread for some insight into Keichu and how it relates to today's issues.

    Thanks Samurai Steve
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    10. Marx asserts that Keichu-do “won over 100 world Championship titles including 2 gold and 3 silver medals in the Junior Olympics held in Chicago in 1985.” Can he specify what these medals and titles were in? Particularly, what proportion were for free-sparring/kumite as opposed to kata/forms, and under the auspices of which governing body?
    FYI a cursory google shows that the 1985 Junior Olympics were held in Iowa City, IA. Which as we all know is not Chicago.

    In fact, if you believe Wiki, Chicago has never hosted a Jr. Olympics.

    Just thought I'd mention that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huge
    FYI a cursory google shows that the 1985 Junior Olympics were held in Iowa City, IA. Which as we all know is not Chicago.

    In fact, if you believe Wiki, Chicago has never hosted a Jr. Olympics.

    Just thought I'd mention that.
    We are currently working on tracking down the exact information.
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    Item 6: I attended a ceremony in Baton Rouge, LA, in 1997. It was held at the State Archives building. There was a display put up by the State of Louisiana (who else would have the authority to do so?) about Keichu Do, containing its history & current status.

    There was a brief presentation ceremony by a state official (I forget who it was, being a northerner!), giving Keichu Do the title of the official martial art of the State of Louisiana.
    I don't know if this was one of those political awards that can be given to prominent citizens of the state for their accomplishments. I don't think this award was intended to preclude another native Louisianan (correct word?) martial art from receiving the same award at a later date.

    This happened in August 1997, but I forget the exact dates. It was scheduled to coincide with the USKA World Championships being held in New Orleans that year.

    Item 11: I believe that all of Jeff Crothers' world championships were won at the USKA. I was only in attendance n 1997. At that tournament there were competitors from Europe, South America & the USA. It was well attended, & the competitiion was very good. As in all tournaments, the level of the competitors varied from world-class to not so good. But overall it was a very competitive tournament.

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    There was a brief presentation ceremony by a state official (I forget who it was, being a northerner!), giving Keichu Do the title of the official martial art of the State of Louisiana.
    I don't know if this was one of those political awards that can be given to prominent citizens of the state for their accomplishments. I don't think this award was intended to preclude another native Louisianan (correct word?) martial art from receiving the same award at a later date.
    How can I reconcile your story with the fact that no one from the State Archives had ever heard of this?
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    JM,
    I don't know how you will reconcile this, but it happened. I was there, took a few photos (my daughters were Keichu students), and all that I described happened. Who do you know in Louisiana? Maybe they didn't work for the State Archives in 1997.

    On the other hand, maybe you don't care about what really happened. Are you simply "trolling" or are you honestly seeking answers?
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    Franp, Steve (JM) has been working this subject on another thread for almost six months and you have just arrived here. You should have more background knowledge of who people are before you call someone a troll.

    If a martial art is made "the official martial arts" of LA, would it not be logical for this to be recorded someplace at the state archives? Regardless of employee turnover they could not find a written record of such an award. Why don't you share with us the official program if one exists or get Mr. Marx to scan and post the original certificate, if it indeed exists.
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    Dear Francis Pultro,

    I'm assuming this is you:

    http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/fran-pultro.htm

    The person I contacted regarding "the official state martial art of LA.", or lack thereof, was Charlene Bonnette, who has the following title:

    Charlene Bonnette
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    State Library of Louisiana

    From her email to me June 20 2006:

    The Louisiana Revised Statutes (Louisiana's Laws) does not list an official martial arts. For something to be "Official" it must be listed in the Louisiana Revised Statutes, such as the Official state bird, state song, state drink, etc. These were passed by the Louisiana Legislature and are Acts. There is nothing about an official martial arts or Keichu-Do in the statutes. Our Department Head, who creates a list of the Official Symbols every year, concurred that there is not an official martial art for Louisiana.
    Regarding "Keichu Day:"

    In searching the Resume (this book lists all House and Senate bills, resolutions and concurrent resolutions) from 1995-1997 I did not find any mention of a day dedicated to Keichu-Do. In searching Former Governor Foster's Executive Orders for 1996 and 1997, I did not find any mention of a day dedicated to Keichu-Do. So, for 1995-1997, there were no legislative actions concerning Keichu-Do and no executive actions for 1996-1997.
    Meanwhile, you don't know who the presenter was at one of the most historic events in Keichu-Do's history, you don't have the date of presentation, you don't know what kind of award it was.

    I can accept that as a Christian martial artist, you're coming to the defense of a fellow Christian martial artist, especially since according to your bio, you hold a black belt in Marx-sensei's art.

    If you can reconcile the information I've posted above with substantiated factual proof, I'll be glad to amend the findings of my investigation of Marx/Keichu-do.

    That being said, I personally will say nothing of your background in taekwondo, "Kardo Jiu-Jitsu," or being a professional dancer because that is not my style. However, I can't account for the actions of other people on this site.

    Welcome to Bullshido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franp
    JM,
    I don't know how you will reconcile this, but it happened. I was there, took a few photos (my daughters were Keichu students), and all that I described happened. Who do you know in Louisiana? Maybe they didn't work for the State Archives in 1997.

    On the other hand, maybe you don't care about what really happened. Are you simply "trolling" or are you honestly seeking answers?
    This is one of the most passive agressive posts I have seen out of anyone in a long time .

    If you wish to be blunt , please do . We do not have strict moderation for language or blunt questions . Feel free to say exactly what you mean .

    Quote Originally Posted by franp
    I don't know how you will reconcile this, but it happened. I was there, took a few photos (my daughters were Keichu students), and all that I described happened. Who do you know in Louisiana? Maybe they didn't work for the State Archives in 1997.
    for me the above post would have been :
    Quote Originally Posted by What I would say as franp
    I have photos here they are

    {insert image}

    I have made a statement .

    You sir are a lier and need to better research your topics .
    If this is out of line I appologize ... but I do not feel as if franp understands the dynamics of the forum .


    Oh yeah ... can we see the photo's please ?
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