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  1. Tonuzaba is online now
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    Correlation between hits in the head and religion?

    Greetings to all,
    now I follow my si-fu's advice to never underestimate a good boxer. I respect good boxers. Sometimes I even enjoy watching them beat each other up (actually anytime I get the chance to see two guys beating each other up instead of me I get this funny but nice feeling of being able to just watch...).
    But...
    With all respect to boxing I was just wondering, how come so many professional boxers turned to organized religion after a certain time in the ring, accepting Islam, changing their names to serve the Prophet, quite a few even becoming pastors...
    Are there any statistics available about the amount of full-power punches shaking the skull (and the brain within it) needed to achieve that kind of a spiritual enlightened state of mind?
    Or is this the true tao of how THE REALLY WORKING MA's in the end really bring us all together in one happy peace and g-d loving community of Alzheimer patients?

    Tonuzaba
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    Correlation isn't causation.

    Most boxers also come from poor immigrant (or displaced, in the case of most african american) communities, where religion tends to be stronger.

    Edit: I'd also like to know where you got your statistics, a few prominent boxers isn't most boxers. Prominent figures will always be noticed more, so maybe they think their fame can be used for some good, or maybe they're targeted for recruitment into religious groups (says the cynic in me) because of the influence they can have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
    Greetings to all,
    now I follow my si-fu's advice to never underestimate a good boxer. I respect good boxers. Sometimes I even enjoy watching them beat each other up (actually anytime I get the chance to see two guys beating each other up instead of me I get this funny but nice feeling of being able to just watch...).
    But...
    With all respect to boxing I was just wondering, how come so many professional boxers turned to organized religion after a certain time in the ring, accepting Islam, changing their names to serve the Prophet, quite a few even becoming pastors...
    Are there any statistics available about the amount of full-power punches shaking the skull (and the brain within it) needed to achieve that kind of a spiritual enlightened state of mind?
    Or is this the true tao of how THE REALLY WORKING MA's in the end really bring us all together in one happy peace and g-d loving community of Alzheimer patients?

    Tonuzaba

    lol.....chunner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
    (actually anytime I get the chance to see two guys beating each other up instead of me I get this funny but nice feeling of being able to just watch...).

    If I were you I'd be glad when I didn't get to fight too:eatbabies
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    I love it. First kickboxing and submission grappling makes you join gangs. Now professional boxing makes you into a born-again. Are you real? Can I keep you? (joke stolen blatantly from Plazma)
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    Hmmm; a sweedish woman that started a charismatic christian sect based on her visions probably suffered from epilepsy, and I've seen a program on TV, where they see that it's a pattern between their religious belief and activity in a certain part of their brain. Messing with the brain can do weird things to people :zicon_ram
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    Professional boxing does not exactly draw its numbers from the "best and brightest."

    Those who do not learn critical thinking tend to fall for all sorts of flim flam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor X
    Those who do not learn critical thinking tend to fall for all sorts of flim flam.
    Wait, you're suggesting religion is flim flam?
    Can you please tell this to various fundamentalists who are doing things like blowing **** up or making folk drink grape flavor-ade?
    Phew... glad that's all sorted...
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    Prominent members of anything also are exposed to fame, which often times leads to the understanding that such things are fleeting and highly unsatisfying in the long run. I would suggest that this correlation stems from dissastifaction with their life, thus looking towards higher truths for meaning.
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    You really oversimplify things Tonu. Correlation is fairly meaningless. Causation is what you are looking for and is what you don't have. There are external factors that apply to both this and the kickboxing/mafia dilemma.

    May I ask how old you are?
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