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    Here, it seems like the goal is to get the elbow as close to your own body as possible, and then worry about the rest.
    While it certainly can work, it is far better to keep the arm on the ground and drag it down. Not twisting it up.
    Very bad form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    While it certainly can work, it is far better to keep the arm on the ground and drag it down. Not twisting it up.
    Very bad form.
    What I was taught when I was there was to keep it low, posture back a little to roll the guy's body up some, and lift the attacked side up and then proceed to force the arm around via the created space. I'm not sure what the difference is here, but it must not be quite the same technique.
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    Maybe he is just sitting up so you can see how he grabs the arm for the lock. Without video it's impossible to tell.

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    True to an extent, but a good americana keeps the arm on the ground and drags it down. It is far tighter and harder to escape (you remove a spatial direction they can move).
    That is a bad americana.

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    And the gracie gift does win.

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    What right does anyone on this site have to insult Frank Shamrock? If anyone on bullshido stepped into the ring with him it would be a bloodbath. BJJers can badmouth his technique all they want, but did anyone happen to see Cesar Gracie vs Frank? That **** only took 20 seconds...

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