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  1. Roidie McDouchebag is offline
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    Sirc's value lies in his ability to draw out those who actually have some knowledge of the subject he brings up in order to tell him to STFU.
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    So, what is requested from a humble noobie such as I to prove what little worth I may hide beneath these many layers of clumsyness and fat and finally achieve the honor of private messages, o First Troll, sensei of trolls?
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    i think the limit is like 20 posts in newbie town or elsewhere, OR (the better route) a supporting membership, which is like $20. (I'm still getting around to it)
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    Posts shall be. Now, we were talking about forging: I think some of these links may help you:

    http://damascus.free.fr/f_exp/com.htm
    http://www.northcoastknives.com/nort..._tutorials.htm (this is about making knives from steel bars)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchco
    So, what is requested from a humble noobie such as I to prove what little worth I may hide beneath these many layers of clumsyness and fat and finally achieve the honor of private messages, o First Troll, sensei of trolls?
    I think you are required not to be a whiny little bitch...and have 20 posts.
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    Aw sheesh, you're making me blush!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bricco
    Posts shall be. Now, we were talking about forging: I think some of these links may help you:
    http://damascus.free.fr/f_exp/com.htm
    Hey Bricco, this is the way I make layered billets, although I use iron for the lower-carbon layers mostly, and limit the layers to less than a hundred.
    Sensible site, but a bit too french.
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    Can you help me with something?
    In making pattern welded steel the part I always found harder is the first stacking: more often than not the layers of steel just won't stay together and fall apart. Any hints?
    Thanks.
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    A trick I tried yesterday. It's old, maybe you already know it: to weld together the layers of steel sprinkle some water on your anvil, then, when the piece is at welding temperature, quickly draw it from the forge, keep it suspended just above the anvil and finally deliver a sharp blow with the hammer.
    When the steel makes contact with the water the latter vaporizes explosively (caution!) and doubles the blow that comes from the hammer; works like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bricco
    Can you help me with something?
    In making pattern welded steel the part I always found harder is the first stacking: more often than not the layers of steel just won't stay together and fall apart. Any hints?
    Thanks.
    A problem often encountered.

    Try ;
    1. Thicker layers.
    2. Longer soak in the heat or higher final temperature.
    3. Hit more gently with a large-faced flat hammer.
    4. Burn charcoal : less air blow, more heat, reducing atmosphere.
    5. Use a special commercial anhydrous borax mix.
    6. Make half the layers real iron with slag inclusions.
    7. Start with only three-layer sandwich and go from there.
    8. Tack-weld the end or ends.
    9. Use more precise box tongs and square clips instead of wire binding.

    All of those will help,
    some can't be done by everyone's setup.
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