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  1. black mariah is offline

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    Guys laying on you.

    Gayest thread title ever, but whatever...

    I have a serious problem with guys laying on top of me. Namely, I can't fucking breathe and it hurts like a ************. This blows because I can slip out of pretty much any pin... unless it's my chest being pinned as in yoko shiho gatame or something similar.

    Is this something you just get used to, or is it something that conditioning can help with?
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    10/20/2006 6:23pm


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    Greetings.

    Uhh..when is a guy pinning you without putting pressure on your chest? Or do you mean you have problems if you get stretched out by a guy who has taken your back?

    Really the answer is ask your instructor and train more, since that's the answer to pretty much every topic that is headed for gitmo.
  3. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    10/20/2006 6:31pm

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    a: EBIZORI!

    b: dongetflat!

    you aren't going to get better at getting out from under side control without practicing from there. a lot.
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    Posted On:
    10/20/2006 6:39pm

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    Bump and shrimp. Repeat until you recover guard.
  5. black mariah is offline

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    10/20/2006 7:29pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    a: EBIZORI!

    b: dongetflat!

    you aren't going to get better at getting out from under side control without practicing from there. a lot.
    I'm there a lot, so practice isn't a problem... the biggest problem comes about once my arms are worn out. I can't lift my opponent up, so I can't create space, so I end up skooshed. Yes, my arms are weak.

    Uhh..when is a guy pinning you without putting pressure on your chest?
    Kesa gatame, for starters. They're still on your chest, but the angle's different. I'm talking more of a straight up 255 pounds on your ribcage.

    I forgot gitmo's been revamped as the more general grappling forum. Move at will.
  6. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    How much do you weigh?
  7. black mariah is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    How much do you weigh?
    I'm a chubby 180. To give this some meaning... not that long ago I was 135 and could have lost a few more pounds without looking emaciated. So obviously I'm a natural stickboy that's sat on his ass for far too long.
  8. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    70lbs difference? Christ, you're screwed...

    My best advice is to try not to get caught flat, don't give them time to settle into the pin. You should be thinking of escape the instant you see it coming, not after it's on, because you'll have a real hard time moving someone who outweighs you by that much.

    Someone more experienced can probably give you better advice now you've narrowed it down a little.
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    Posted On:
    10/20/2006 11:21pm


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    I'm screwed all around in my class. Everyone is either significantly heavier than me or taller than me, and of the two guys that are my height one's a brown and the other a black.

    If I can excel in this class, I will rule the world. lol

    But yeah, you bring up a good point. I keep getting caught flat. Mostly because I get manhandled rather easily right now.
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    Escaping isn't about pushing with your arms. Its about moving your hips. And get off your back and onto your side.
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