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  1. PPlate is offline

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    Best Escape from Cross Mount for Beginner

    Hi
    I'm always getting caught under the cross mount during training.

    For a newbie, what's the first escape from cross mount that I should learn, that is easy to do and high percentage, prefably leading to a more dominant position?

    Thanks!
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPlate
    Hi
    I'm always getting caught under the cross mount during training.

    For a newbie, what's the first escape from cross mount that I should learn, that is easy to do and high percentage, prefably leading to a more dominant position?

    Thanks!
    First :
    No offense or anything but if your training in BJJ shouldn't you be asking your instructor? Coming here for written advice on the first move for X you should learn as a rank newbie is difficult at best. Giving advice to people in written word who already know what they're doing is hard enough. Giving it to you is like.... Nevermind. As a newbie you will constantly find yourself under side control and under the mount. It's a fact of life. You will also tap often. Keep going to class and it will all fall into place.

    Second:
    There are too many variables to list. The answer will depend upon the following:
    Where are his arms?
    What is his grips? Gi or no gi?
    How is his body and hips positioned?
    How is his weight positioned?
    How are his legs positioned?

    Third:
    High percentage is dependant upon your use of proper technique, him being in the right position to use said technique and your skill level vs. his.

    Fourth:
    Easy to do and leading to dominant positions? Some escapes put him into your guard, some put you neutral and others put you in a cross body position. These depend on the above listed questions. They are all easy once you know what your doing and you use it properly. Yet they are all hard against a crafty opponent and most often you switch from one to the other and back again repeatedly. Knowing one escape is a start but is not sufficient.

    My suggestion is to talk to your instructor to learn it properly. Then come back here and perhaps we can provide you some tips to improve what basic concepts you learn in class.
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  3. PPlate is offline

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    [quote=Red Elvis]First :
    No offense or anything but if your training in BJJ shouldn't you be asking your instructor? quote]

    Thanks for the reply. Problem is we learn together as a group (all whites, one blue), and learn the technique that was being taught that week. Guess they may have covered side mount some time ago, so I'd probably have to wait till it gets covered again. But I keep getting caught under side mount in sparring, so wanted to learn an escape first.

    Impatient student that I am...
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    I think that was the first bit of advice I asked when I started, too. I hated side control!

    Unfortunately you just have to keep training, you'll find yoursef there less, and if you are there, you'll have a trick or three up your sleeve to escape.

    Just listen to red elvis.
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  5. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    they haven't taught you ebizori?
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    Shrimp. Repeat until you escape. This never changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninPimp
    Shrimp. Repeat until you escape. This never changes.
    Thanks...will try this next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninPimp
    Shrimp. Repeat until you escape. This never changes.

    This guy gives the best advice. I was gonna say, get on your side, shrimp and keep shrimping till you get to guard.
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    We used to shrimp every day in Judo back and forth a couple times up the mats. We do this in BJJ too. Its a great skill. Its actually kinda fun to do.
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    that's a great drill to do

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