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  1. Slydermv is offline

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    Lifting Program

    Hey all,

    I've taken a little break from training due to a hectic schedual (got married, built a house, started a new job, **** what a summer), but now I'm back to training and slowly getting back into reasonable shape. However, I wanted to add a lifting program to my schedual to help up my game and get ready for a TKD tournment in April and help with my mixed and BJJ training.

    Problem is I know **** all about lifting. My TKD instructor moved into a new gym and aquired ten machines (your basic stuff I guess, bench, military press, leg curls, stuff I don't know the name of, etc.) and I have the following questions.

    1. You know of any good websites that have martial arts specific lifting programs, with pictures? I don't know the names of all the exersizes and really don't know where to start. I'll be lifting about 2-3 times a week during lunch hours (only time I can do this. My evenings are for training tech and sparring)

    2. I'm not really sure how much weight I should be putting up or how I sohuld be increasing it, reps, for each excersize. Any rules of thumb?

    Thanks.
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    Honestly, the book Starting Strength is *exactly* what you need. So, so worth the $30.
    http://www.startingstrength.com/

    1) Exrx.net will work. But you're limited with machines. MA is big compound movements and machines don't do that. I think the best training would be strongman-type stuff. Search that and you'll get tons of different workouts.

    2) I'd do circuit training. Warm up. start with the biggest muscle group you can work - leg press probably - and do a hard set of 8. If the weight is where you can do more than 10, increase the weight. Then move to the next machine and do the same thing. Limit the breaks between sets to like 60 seconds. Once you finish the whole circuit, then rest for a few minutes and do it again.
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    Ok... so basically one set of each exersize with 60 second breaks... then repeat?

    I've got some basic excersize from that website I think I can start with.... basically a full body workout. I was always under the impression you only do certain muscles on certain days... but what the **** do I know...

    Think I'
    m gonna start next week...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slydermv
    Ok... so basically one set of each exersize with 60 second breaks... then repeat?
    You got it. the theory is you work both cardio and get a full body strength workout.


    I've got some basic excersize from that website I think I can start with.... basically a full body workout. I was always under the impression you only do certain muscles on certain days... but what the **** do I know...
    At least in the beginning, you should be able to do a full body 2 or 3 times a week without over training.

    The body part thing I see a lot. I'm pretty sure that's from body building and that's where it should stay. Good if you really want to bulk up your favorite muscles, not so good at recruiting your entire body - like you do in real life.


    Good luck dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    You got it. the theory is you work both cardio and get a full body strength workout.
    Actually, that should work out perfect since I'm on limited time at luch. I can just stop at whatever set I'm at and run back to work without missing an excersize (I should have time to get on set in of each at least).

    Thanks for the assistance,

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    Two pieces of advice.

    1. Are you lifting weights to increase strength ? If you are stay away from machines and isolation movements. Use compound movements and stick to free weights or odd objects like sandbags.

    2. Take it easy with the lifting. If your training martial arts 3 nights per week you don't want to lift weights everyday I can tell you.
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    10/13/2006 11:25pm


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    Just as an add on to training, maybe to help with strength and muscular endurance or something like that. I have an hour at lunch and my school is open three days a week at this time, so I figure I'd give it a try and see if I can stick with it
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    Fair enough.

    But I stand by my original statement. Stick to compound movements. Chinups,dips, weighted chinups/dips, deadlift,squats zercher squats, clean and press... you get my drift yeah ? Don't even go near a Pec-Dec or Leg Curl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal

    2. Take it easy with the lifting. If your training martial arts 3 nights per week you don't want to lift weights everyday I can tell you.
    You don't want to be lifting weights everyday regardless.
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