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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Gentry
    Most people are terrified of automatic weapon's.

    You want to hook up and hit knob creek let me know i spent 5yrs as a machine gunner in the Marine's and have thought about going down to there little get together.

    Have been itching to get some trigger time on an M60 or M2.


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    Gonna probably do it next year, it's a little short notice for me this go round.

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    Nice shooting. We should set up an AR15 shoot though bullshido like the pistol shoot they had a while ago.

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    something tells me that's not a very practical carry weapon
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    .60 caliber? I have no idea what actual caliber that was. It almost looked like a Contender, so it could have been almost anything.

    Accuracy in any firearm is the result of consistency. To be perfectly accurate (hit the same point from the same range every single time) a firearm needs to have perfectly consistent bullet weights, bullet sizes and shapes in all dimensions, powder charge compositions and amounts, primer composition and charge, cartridge case dimensions--and that's just for starters. The barrel harmonics and shape have to be consistent, too, which means perfectly consistent pressure/mounting of the barrel and chamber, and of course metal changes expands and contracts with heat and cold.
    In a semi-automatic or automatic firearm it's an even bigger puzzle, because then the mechanical processes have to be consistent--the bolt has to lock up the same way every time, the striker or firing pin has to hit the same way every time, every round has to chamber exactly the same way, if there's a slide and a moving barrel, the barrel and slide have to lock up and fit back together exactly the same way after every shot.

    All that is what it would take to be completely accurate with no human shooter involved, just bolting the gun into a mechanical rest. Factor in the human being, and consistency is even more difficult.

    If the Ingram is actually less accurate than the Uzi (which I don't know to be true) then it has more to do with these factors than anything else.

    Larger and heavier bullets are actually affected less by the wind than smaller, lighter bullets in most cases. But dozens if not hundreds of factors go into accurate shooting, and they all affect each other so changing one changes others in unpredictable ways.

    It's all pretty fascinating stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
    It's all pretty fascinating stuff.
    Another quality Gwinn post. I agree, it is fascinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
    .60 caliber? I have no idea what actual caliber that was. It almost looked like a Contender, so it could have been almost anything.
    Don beat me to it. Looks like a Contender. The Encore can handle some hefty rifle loads. H&H had a .600 Nitro Express express at one time and Contender has barrels for other H&H rounds. I've never seen one in .60 but maybe this is a custom fab...
    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    That is exactly what I meant sdave. You are dead on, as usual.

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    Talk about developing a flinch. I had heard that the round fired in the movie was the .600 NE in a contender, but can't find the supporting info to back it up anymore.

    It reminds me of the movies of people shooting the .577 T-Rex.

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    Didn't know .600 actually existed. That was some funny vid. 'Aim every shot.'

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    I wonder if he got lucky and hit his sheet.

    Nice uzi, tex. By the way did you shoot out the 'o' in the sheet? or was that from something else?

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