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  1. Nord is offline

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    I'm glad you recognize the importance of skill over power and muscles. I weigh over 260 pounds, but I can take out people much more muscular than I am using skill. Here's a good discussion of it. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47044 Of course, I'm assuming that both fighters are Wing Chun masters of equal skill. Why doesn't the muscle help out? Why does fat help some fighters?
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    What is a wing chun master?
    When You absolutely have to hide a body...try Alaska.
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    youre either a troll or so fucking stupid that you may as well be, nord (Orc would totally pwn you btw)

    edit- added in the comma for the stupid nordic guy underneath me (dumb honkeys man)
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    Hey alex, I am of nordic descent. What was that comment supposed to mean?
    When You absolutely have to hide a body...try Alaska.
  5. JohnnyCache is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord
    I'm glad you recognize the importance of skill over power and muscles. I weigh over 260 pounds, but I can take out people much more muscular than I am using skill. Here's a good discussion of it. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47044 Of course, I'm assuming that both fighters are Wing Chun masters of equal skill. Why doesn't the muscle help out? Why does fat help some fighters?

    1. The difference between 3% and 6%, for a 200# man, is 6 pounds. Those three points are enough for many people to lose the definition of say, a six pack. The point is, you can actually sometimes feel better performance wise if you DON'T go super lean. Bodybuilders dehydrate and use other extreme techniques to get super cut to 1-3%, most bodybuilders don't walk around day to day at those percentages. Just keep in mind, Tim Sylvia having a bit of love handle over the top of his compression pants does not give fatties the world over liscense to believe they are "fat but fit" as they cry themselves to sleep.

    2. If you are 260 pounds and have any issues about people "much more muscular" then you, I might suggest, politely, that the 260 pounds is rather . . .roughly arrayed. Not automatically your fault, many of us have a little extra bulk, but stop excusing it and dressing it up.
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  6. nifoc is offline

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    I'm from Sweden, for those of you without a map it's one of the nordic countries, and I'm curious. Is this "I'm of viking descent, so I must be the best in the world blah blah blah" common in the states? Of course we get some of these nutcases here, not too many but enough to be a bother. And fighters don't look like bodybuilders because A) the exercises required to looking like that are not conducive to good stamina and B) it's generally considered a bad idea if your muscles get in the way when cross-punching.

    Btw there IS a nordic martial art, two that I've heard of actually. One of them is an old wrestlingstyle, very ritualized though, called Glima (The "i" should be pronounced as "ee",sometimes spelled Glyma). The other that I've heard of was featured in a martial arts magazine in sweden, and called Stav (Lit. Staff). Glima has roots that can be verified, Stav is apparently some "secret tradition passed down from father to son" or something like that.
  7. gecco69 is offline

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    10/11/2006 4:19am

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    Bodybuilders train to form their muscles not for strengh, endurance.

    When they are in competition weight/form, they are at their weakest strength but look absolutely massive.
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    You are all misinformed and blinded by Dextrocentrists.

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    he's right you know. we are planning to take over the world right now. why can i tell you this? because the righties are too stupid to do anything about it. need proof?

    G.W Bush is right handed. thats right.
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    At 3% body fat you would have stripped your body of much of it's necessary natural padding. I bet it would hurt more when somebody hit you. Roman Gladiators used to fatten up on barley stew before fights to get some padding.
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