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    It's always nice to have options. Opening your game up is both fun and helpful. Think outside the box. Some might ask "Why omoplata from mount?" I respond with: "Why not?"
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    Looking at the pics again, I see the value of spinning in order to get control of the leg on your way to good posture, not while you're deviating from it.

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    I find this technique fascinating. To me in combines elements of wrestling, Judo, and BJJ into a seamless movement.

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    We worked this technique in newaza class tonight. I've been using the same technique but without grabbing the leg (right hand on his right wrist, left hand cupping his right elbow) with great success for some time now. My very first judo match was won using that turnover into a pin. When using the grips described here it's even more powerful.

    I'd say the risk when using this technique is that if he gets hold of your foot when you swing your leg over (Picture 4) he might be able to turn that into a takedown. In judo the chance of this happening is very low however as turtling judoka generally don't try to mount any offense from there whatsoever.

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    My Judo training buddies don't know what's coming to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
    Probably because spinning around gives you easy access to the far leg. Without the grip on the far leg, flipping the turtle for this technique would likely be an exercise in frustration.

    Disclaimer: This is my analysis based on the stills. Arabic has precedence over BJJ this week, so I've not had a chance to drill the technique.
    My thought is that if you spin around the guy, you're going to have sudden leverage and momentum to actually flip him ... you could try it from position one, sort of, but you'd have inferior leverage - the spin lets you get in position for the flip without letting the guy out the back by changing your grip on the arm. But then, all I know about BJJ is that they have lots of cool patches.


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    I've been shown this before, but this is a great reminder.

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    Aeso, you might want to clarify that he is not your edward...that has the makings of a "typo to remember"


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    I make no moral judgements on Aeso's private life, I think he's fabulous.

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    This looks cool, but seems to be like it would only be effective if they held turtle guard like that. Otherwise if they had a tight turtle, go for a choke or force taking the back.

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