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  1. Epicurus is offline

    I'm grindin' 'till I'm tired...

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     Style: Judo. Some BJJ/Kickboxing

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    Arm Choke vs. Rear Naked Choke

    I know basically nothing about grappling so-
    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 10/08/2006 12:40pm at .
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     Style: MMA/Pankration

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    It's called an arm triangle choke, or sometimes a side choke.
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     Style: Judo. Some BJJ/Kickboxing

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    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 10/08/2006 12:45pm at .
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     Style: Whoo-Hoo-Fu!

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    ... or a head and arm choke or a shoulder hold. It all depends on who you talk to as far as the name goes. Epicrus, it all comes down to the situation. Sometimes a head and arm (as I call it) is just there other times it is easy to take the back and get the RNC. You can't really say which is better because it really depends on what it happening at the time. Both make nice escort positions though.

    As far as comparing them directly on a biomechanical sense they are both blood chokes and therefor essentially the same thing. Once in position you can have someone unconscious in a few seconds.

    On a legal side, the RNC is currently banned by a number of police forces due to over enthusiastic members slapping it on full force and causing damage to the neck and tissues. This isn't so much and issue of the choke being lethal (although interrupting blood flow to the brain isn't healthy) but in the shock that was caused to the arteries.

    Hope that helps.

    TKD

    PS - In a SD situation I'd much rather have an unconscious attacker regardless of how I get them there ;)
  5. Epicurus is offline

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     Style: Judo. Some BJJ/Kickboxing

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    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 10/08/2006 12:46pm at .
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     Style: JJ of the B variety

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    Well, if you can get behind someone it's certainly a great position to be in for you.
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     Style: Whoo-Hoo-Fu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epicurus
    Are you saying that if you had the choice, it's a bit better to get a RNC if you can?
    Sometimes a head and arm is just there other times it is easy to take the back and get the RNC

    The whole sentence implies that I will take what I can get. As a bouncer I was usually more able to secure a head and arm when dealing with a problem than spinning to take the back for the RNC. Regardless of which choke I take (as I mention further in the post) you're going out, one way or another.

    TKD
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     Style: Judo. Some BJJ/Kickboxing

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    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 10/08/2006 12:46pm at .
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    Well that and learn to grapple...
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    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    someone attacks you on t3h str33t? take what you can get... and if you can get it, crush his motherfucking throat.
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