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  1. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Scrapper, dude, I wish I'd knew that one. How the hell do you set the nose back, btw???

    Supercrap, btw, do not, I repeat, do not in any way, shape or manner try to blow up your nose for a day or two once they remove the gausse. Let it heal, and get ready for the uncomfortable feeling when they pull the gausse out. You'll feel your nuts are being pulled up (*evil grin*)... either that, or my doctor fucking sucked.

    I had the same situation when I broke my nose back in Honduras just before coming to the US. It wasn't that much broken, but it got twisted. I lived with it for a few years until I realized carthilage had grew up and almost closed my nostrils.

    I finally got corrective surgery in 95 when the situation became intollerable... and the bad part was the gausse. The gausse, man, the gausse, the fucking feet after feet of gausse!!!

    As VP said, put some pillows next to your head to avoid rolling. You may also want to apply ice on your face, side by side your nose to ameliorate the swelling if there is any.

    And don't forget, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BLOW YOUR NOSE AFTER THEY PULL THE GAUSSE. Whatever you feel you have there, blood, mucus, whatever, suck it up and spit it. Don't blow it through your nose as it may be too tender (and more bleeding will ensue.)
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    Guys, I can't tell you how much this advice is helping. stuck out here in Japanland, and my missus has had enough of my complaining, so it's good to commiserate.

    Scrapper, I tried to do it myself. God knows why, I just saw it was all mangled and tried to straighten it but I couldn't do it. The doc did it about an hour later. You should have seen how hard he had to push. Like trying to pull the lid off a really, really tough jam jar. When he got it, it when "shhluck-pop" back into place.

    The gauze is what's really painful though.

    I'm seeing the doc tomorrow. I hope he takes it out and doesn't put any more back in.
    Macho - got it. No nose blowing.

    I felt a sneeze coming earlier but squashed it, luckily.
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    10/09/2006 9:30pm


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    I have a question about the japanese health care system for you. How did they treat it, was it covered as an accident or did you have to pay a bundle out of pocket? This is kind of important for me as I could be in the same situation too.
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    I don't know exactly but it was ichi-man. Shiiiiit.

    I have hokken (national insurance.) But I guess it doesn't cover it.

    Also, my BJJ school has insurane but I wasn't paid up... double shiiit!

    Jubei, if you are in Japan and training, sign up for whatever insurance your school has... probably not very expensive, and will save you a lot of money.

    Went to the docs today and they took out a little of the gauze, but left most of it in.

    so another day of hell and sleepless night of agony. Woohoo.

    Note to self: do not break nose again.
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    Posted On:
    10/22/2006 4:44am


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    Nose wasn't fun being broken. Thanks to Lord Asia it helped me a bit I'm sure when I finally got it fixed for good a few weeks later in surgery, when they put it perfectly back in place (with the help of a hammer tapping it in place). Some people even told me it looks better than before. Anyway, it's definitely better to get it fixed now than later (try to get it done before two weeks, when it starts to heal back completely). I hear stories about how if people don't get it fixed, they wait until 50 or 60, then they start getting breathing problems, or it heals back wrong and makes all the stuff inside your nose off-kilter. I know my uncle had his broken when he was a young man, and now he's 74 and snores so loud that my aunt can't sleep in the same room sometimes because of the volume. It's funny but now the surgery is so good, and it's such a minor procedure that it isn't such a big deal. Get it over with if necessary; out for 30 min., then you wake up when you get the surgery done, it's quick and fast. No pain but just gauze for a few days. It'll get better, don't worry. Just lay off contact sparring to the face for a little while, until whatever the doctor said to wait for and it heals. Only issue was I had to wear some plastic nose shaper thing at night to keep the swelling down after they took this metal thing off after 1 week. I did that for about 2 months just to make sure the cartilage healed back OK. Surgery was $4000 total (includes specialist doctor, anesthesia, hospital room, whatever). Insurance covered over $2000, which wasn't bad. At least if you want it fixed right, the sooner the better. Don't worry; you've now joined an exclusive club. One of my instructors broke his nose 5 times (used to do bareknuckle fights), another one 6 times doing tournaments or hard contact fights. A guy who was also an instructor of mine did security at Parisian's and had his broken 9 times from various work-related incidents.
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    Posted On:
    11/01/2006 4:53pm


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    I had my nose broken last september, actually more accurately it broke my nose and fractured my maxilla... but thats detail. Like scrapper said, you need that **** put back straight fast. I straightened mine myself as I bled all over the dock, but had to get surgery a week later anyway to re-open my right sinus, in the end though I don't have any crookedness or hideous deformation. Did anyone else find that cartilage crunches like celery? Expect to be off any kind of hard training for 6-8 weeks. And have lingering fears over it happening again for much much longer.
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    Posted On:
    11/01/2006 5:21pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by supercrap
    I don't know exactly but it was ichi-man. Shiiiiit.
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    Damn, I forget my Japanese, is that $100?
    What are you doing out there? I went to Aomori to visit a friend who was doing JET. There was a lot of snow, and sulphur onssens. Snow + sulphur onssens + sex deprived JET chicks = good times.


    Oh yeah and sorry about the pain and blood and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercrap
    Ouch.

    I got a full on, full power accidental elbow directly into the side of my nose in BJJ sparring today.

    MY nose looked like this:

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    Yowzer.

    Lots and lots of blood. Went to hospita. He shoved about 13 metres of guaze up my nose and sprayed some drugs in there.

    Then I sat down until my face was all numb. Then he lay me down, took the gauze out, and cracked my nose into place again. That took about 5 minutes of agonizing crunching and snapping and twisting.

    Now I'm at home and it hurts more than it did all day. And I've got another 13 metres of gauze up my nose. Feels like that scene in Total Recall where Arnie pulls the giant tracking device out of his nostrils.

    Can anyone who has broken their nose before console me please?

    Hurts doesn't it?

    Also, there is a very small amount of clear liquid coming out of my nose... only a little. Kind of like boogers, actually. I read that it is dangerous if it streams out without stopping. This is just very occasionally dribbling. Do you think that is okay, oh Bullshido certified doctoroligosts?

    Ouch.
    clear liquid? lets just hope that isn't cerebro-spinal fluid
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    I feel lucky never having my nose broken, I get hit a lot but I have ken shamrock's nose, it just mushes in whatever direction you hit it and goes right back.
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    Posted On:
    11/03/2006 6:53am


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    I'm very lucky in that I've had mine cracked, but never displaced. Hurt, bled, packed, iced, bruised, double shiner. But THANKFULLY didn't have to have it set. I do have a slight cartilage build-up, BFD.

    My husband, on the other hand, has a nose that is slightly s-shaped. They never got it quite right after the third time or so. I've decided it gives his face character. And learned to sleep through the snoring.

    I do feel for you, though. As a nurse I've seen the horror- the horror.

    I'm told that if you say "watermelon" just when you are about to sneeze, it will open the sinuses and the sneeze will go away. And if you see one of those gel eye-masks that you can put in the freezer, pick one up. It will help at night with the throbbing pain in your face.
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