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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    Kimura was only four years younger than Helio in that match, and they were the same height. He did outweigh him by quite a bit, but nowhere near 100 pounds, it was more like 40.

    Ah, who am I kidding. The Gracies can't lose, Helio probably let him win to pay off some ancient debt to Maeda...
    I didnt say he outweighed him by 100 pounds.

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    Woohooo! BJJ WINS AGAIN!

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    Wait, did I just get trolled?

    Muther-fucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman34
    I didnt say he outweighed him by 100 pounds.
    you said he was "twice as big"

    Helio weighs more then 40 pounds


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    you said he was "twice as big"

    Helio weighs more then 40 pounds
    Thanks for the Troll Johhny......

    Figure of speech and all........

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    Not this again.

    Here's the best video of the fight on the internet that I've seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2wO3dHUYwQ

    Kimura was a bit heavier and shorter. Not 40 lbs difference, clearly. Kimura dominated from beginning to end, to my eye. Of course, Kimura was the best Judoka of his generation. Kimura also appears to be physically stronger than Gracie.

    Don't forget that at this time BJJ did not have competition, and hence did not have the rapid and precise development of technique that competition brings. Kimura was beaten only a handful of times in competition, including kosen competition (I believe).

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    dude, look up batman vs superman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    You know what's sad, even "Coda Scott" pulls up more hits than Kimura..... just not enough to beat me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dai Tenshi
    You know what's sad, even "Coda Scott" pulls up more hits than Kimura..... just not enough to beat me.
    Wow.

    I guess you win.

    Edit: I have no last name.
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