You are kidding right?
Originally Posted by pauli
I train with a ridge hand as part of my heavy bag workout. (2x a week for 30 minutes)
I have never had any problems with my wrist.
I often use my knife hand to break boards at demos and things of that nature. Again I have never hurt my wrist
I have sprained my wrist using a punch on multiple occasions.
Your experience may be different.
So, here's the question: if it's easier to telegraph and block, why do you want to use it? Fine, you get some "power" out of it ... why not just develop a strong hook, or panantukan whipping punch or something? I was trying this strike out at home and it seemed ... well, lame. Silly.
You actually won't telegraph too much with it if you practice with it. I like to treat mine like a hook. It might catch people unexpected too, as not many people use them.
Shuto uchi uchis are nice to use as a follow-up to a straight right. If your opponent jabs at you can bump it out of the way with your forearm which will put you right in position for one. I played around with both of these in sparring, I tend to get a lot more use out of uchi uchi than gammen uchi though. I love my hooks so I'm more biased to use those.
I agree with Viking. Practice more with it.
I usually throw it with 123, ridge hand punching combo. it works great because it generates a lot of power for me and sneaks in there.
I dropped someone out at a testing about 2 years ago with one. He was one of those guys that was trying to hurt you all the time so I had had enough.
Well, considering that my chop was almost stronger than my hook right off the bat (and I work on my hooks the most after my jab), it seemed like it had a LOT more power and, in some ways, was harder to block in that it comes from an odd stance at an odd angle. The trick is working the setup motion into your normal pattern, as when batting someone's straight punch away, as mentioned by someone above. Yes it does seem silly when you try it out - it helps to have someone who knows it demonstrate on a pad or something.
Originally Posted by JKDChick
Also, what's a panantukan whipping punch? that sounds like a fancy drink to me ; )
It is called Gyaku yokomen-uchi in my syllabus.
Originally Posted by VikingPower
I just don't know, guys. I think I'd have to see one of you use it in an effective manner to have any respect for it. But I'm a very "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead " fighter.
Panantukan (this is doubtlessly a mis-spelling) in Indonesian -- I believe -- and uses tricky changes of direction punches that whip into pressure points. These can be landed -- to awesome effect -- while boxing. Have both given and recived.
Perhaps I haven't seen enough Kyokushin competitions but I haven't seen that moved used often.
Is it commonplace in Kyokushin tourneys?
You can add the knife hand to your combos many ways. You can use your jab, palm, clawing techniques as a blinder then follow up with your knife hand or shuto chops to the collar bone or neck area. as far as it being slower than your hook right now it's just because itís a new tool to you. Others may correct me if I'm wrong but open hands should travel faster than your closed hands. Knife hands also work great if you know trapping, some may suggest to you use them as a blocking techniques but I strongly disagree. Best punch to use though if you go to the ground you mentioned your buddy was in judo is a hammer fist unless you play with head butts and elbows.
Originally Posted by Epicurus
I don't think so, to be honest, most likely because head shots aren't allowed with the hands. They do have a shuto hiza uchi which strikes the body but I haven't seen that one with any frequency either.