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    Point sparring the good and bad

    I don't do, and am not terribly interested in doing single point sparring, however I think it's original intention in Karate was to provide a safe way to do full/hard contact sparring. That you would fight until the first person landed a real solid hard strike and then stop and then continue thus making it a bit safer

    Here's an example of what it should look like
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...8522661&q=goju

    some nice knock downs starting around the 1.30 minute mark

    As was posted in another thread here is what point sparring has generally become.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4pTNRL2B00

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    That's not what anyone means anymore by point sparring.
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    What do you consider single point sparring then

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoJu - Joe
    What do you consider single point sparring then
    first player to tap the other wins that point. Reset. til the round is over.
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    Point sparring is dumb, gear or not, but if that's what people want to do more power to them.
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    I find it helps your distancing, timing and footwork in general. You have to stay out of range, get in and hit the guy first; all valuable skills. If you leave your hands down or have any other glaring openings the other guy will usually hit you anyway. I was always getting caught flat-footed in kickboxing and getting lit up because I couldn't control angles and distance, but after taking some time to spar in the Shotokan classes at our school I found my kickboxing was much improved when I went back.
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    If people wanna do it as a sport, thats no issue. Its when they think that its effective training for real fighting then it becomes a problem

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    My point was that in the old school Karate point sparring was a way to do hard contact sparring. It wasn't first light tap get the point, but first hard hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoJu - Joe
    My point was that in the old school Karate point sparring was a way to do hard contact sparring. It wasn't first light tap get the point, but first hard hit
    I'm surprised with your experience on this site, that you really don't think that most McDojos have tended strictly toward your second video.
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    I know they have. My point isn't trying to validate what passes for point sparring in most mcdojos or competitions.

    The point I am trying to make is that point sparring should be the first video not the second. And that point sparring as done in the first video has some merit where as point sparring in the second video has none.

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