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Posted On:10/03/2006 2:24pm
Style: Kyokushin Karate
Youtube has a lot of awesome old-school videos, I've been gathering together a collection and figured others would want to see them.
Knockout power in either hand, awesome hand speed, excellent defense, lots of ring savvy, and could mind-**** with the best of them. One of the greats.
Jack Johnson vs Jim Jeffries
This is a great vid although it doesn't show Johnson at his best due to all the clinching. It does show his fighting style pretty well however in that he was a big trash-talker (Muhammad Ali was inspired by him a lot) and had excellent defense.
Some training of Jim Jeffries, then Johnson vs Jeffries
Joe Choynski, his trainer, was never more than 170 pounds but routinely fought heavyweights. Notice their footwork, a lot more fluid than many people believe. Choynski's jab might look a bit familiar to fencers, as one comment mentions (though he called him Corbett and not Choynski). Otherwise same fight, but with a different commentary and more video.
Jack Johnson Montage
I get a kick out of how he laughs or grins whenever he takes a good shot. Lots of good footage here.
Jack Johnson vs Jess Willard
Definitely not one of Johnson's bests. He gets KOed by Willard, though he always claimed it was a set-up. Johnson always had trouble with opponents his size or larger, as they could match his strength.
My all-time favorite fighter. If you don't know about him, you don't deserve to live.
Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard
Wish this was in English. One of the most brutal beatings ever in boxing. Dempsey at his best.
Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney
Still a controversial one to this day. Tunney trained for six long years to beat Dempsey. If it wasn't for the rules change, Dempsey might have won but as it is Tunney became champ.
Jack Dempsey vs Georges Carpentier
Two great boxers, one great fight. Carpentier never really had a chance.
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My Punching with Power article
Posted On:10/03/2006 2:25pm
Hope you guys like.
Posted On:10/03/2006 3:23pm
Style: KARATE / MUAY THAI
Cool, thanks. Love the old school vids...
Posted On:10/03/2006 5:21pm
Style: Mixed Martial Arts
Jack Dempsey was the most badass boxer ever. Perhaps not technically the best, but definatly the baddest.
Posted On:10/04/2006 5:41pm
Style: Submission Grappling
Nice clip of two great old middleweights Mike Gibbons vs. Mike O’Dowd. Gibbons was more of a welterweight really. Unlike most old Boxing footage which is usually very choppy and blurry this one is of very good quality this is probably some of he best old footage that I’ve seen.
This clip pretty much destroys the myth that the old school fighters were crude plodding stationary targets that only threw one punch at a time. It’s hard to believe that it is from 1919. If you didn’t know any better it could easily pass for footage from the 50’s and 60’s. Hell if it was in color it could just as easily pass for modern footage.
Posted On:10/04/2006 6:29pm
Style: Short Fist Boxing
Thanks for that. Dempsey really lays a pasting on poor Willard in that fight. Definitely a hard hitter. Notice how alot of those old school guys kept their hands so low...
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Posted On:10/04/2006 6:55pm
Originally Posted by OZZ
Notice how alot of those old school guys kept their hands so low...
Quite a few modern fighters leave their guard fairly low at times also. Here's a very good article concerning Boxing Strategies, Styles etc.:
"The Development of Boxing Strategies, Styles and Techniques During the Gloved Era to Present--Part 1"
Posted On:10/04/2006 9:14pm
Just took a look at the Jack Johnson clips. I would love to spend a week at the central office of "The Ring"magazine and view the archives tapes for fights like this..., thanks so much for putting this up.
I am sure that I recently heard rumors regarding the production of a movie about Jack Johnson .. does anybody know anything about this? Considering his importance, not just as a fighter but as a significant figure both culturally and historically,I think it is high time a good film was made about him.
Last edited by OZZ; 10/04/2006 10:11pm at .
Posted On:10/05/2006 11:22am
Style: yang taichi
James Earl Jones did a Jack Johnson movie years and years ago. If their making another, I'd be damn interested.
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Posted On:10/05/2006 11:58am
OZZ I think you are confusing him with Joe Louis, I´ve heard a movie about him is in production now. A Jack Johnson movie, The Great White Hope came out over 30 years ago.
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