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    Quote Originally Posted by lovegod
    Calling Doc X a troll will not be tolerated because it is down-right unfair. Also, it is an insult to all trolls everywhere. But, calling him an idiot would be a compliment.

    You need to search for the most fitting word. Right now, We just call him Doc X. He is the unknown idiot. The only living brain donor.


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    And if you do call him a troll, that's DOCTOR Troll to you...

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    Maybe while he is banned he can find a joke writer?

    Since finding a clue seems quite beyond his capabilities. . . .

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    I've heard variations of this story, first hand, at least 3 times before, from 3 different schools, 3 different arts. It always goes like this: some poor old Japanese guy, usually an old gardener like Mr. Miyagi or an old Japanese solder, turns out to be the Soke of his family's long lost martial art, and then on his death bed he passes the art along to some non-Japanese person, because nobody else is worthy. And then trying to verify all this stuff turns out to be impossible, because the art is associated to some secret right wing group that's connected to the Emperor, and that most coveniently, nobody can ever talk about.

    Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.

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    All I can say is Angier supposedly has the goods. (I haven't heard anyone come away from one of his seminars with something negative to say about the guy, and that includes people that do BJJ)
    He's probably worth checking out if you can get to one of his serminars.
    Btw, he is quoted as saying "Ki is crap", just in case people think he's a k1 hugger that loves to prance around in samurai skirts.

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    I took some time to read the Aikido Journal forum. Here's what seems to be the skinny:

    Read

    http://www.aikidojournal.com/forums/...pic.php?t=5487

    Short story: Don Angier used to teach publically using the kyu/dan system. He says that one of his black belts was only given the rank to make it easier to find training partners. Angier finishes by nullifying all of the ranks granted outside of his current dojo. This person (John Clodig) disputes this version of events and says his rank was given with no strings attached and that contrary to what Angier says, he trained with him regularly and didn't just abandon him once he got his rank.

    See:

    http://www.aikidojournal.com/forums/...pic.php?t=5490

    A while later Angier personally and definitively named his soke-dai:

    http://www.aikidojournal.com/forums/...pic.php?t=6729

    So it looks like Angier's position is that his only real students are those he took in after abandoning his commercial school. One person from that era "begs to differ," on the details, but from a traditional point of view, what's done is done: John Clodig is no longer a Yanagi-ryu guy. Clodig admits he stopped training with Angier and says it was to take care of his wife. Insert drama, etc.

    Clodig now teaches what he knows under another names, detailed at:

    http://www.hwarang.org/Clodig-Bio-Art.html
    Last edited by eyebeams; 10/06/2006 3:23am at .

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    I took Tomiki-Ryu Aikido and I find it boring and we nit-pick katas too much. They like peace and love thy brother. If you use aikido skills on the streets, you get beat-up. If Yanagi-ryu
    is a samurai art style of MA, why do you see articles about Yanagi-Ryu in Aikido Journal, do not make any sense. Yanagi-Ryu should be on a different classification.

    I think it is more closely related to - " Ju-jitsu is called the mother art in that it forms the basis for many of the more modern arts, including Judo, Aikido, and some Karate styles....."

    www.roninyudansharyu.com/JuJitsu.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengun9
    I took Tomiki-Ryu Aikido and I find it boring and we nit-pick katas too much. They like peace and love thy brother. If you use aikido skills on the streets, you get beat-up. If Yanagi-ryu
    is a samurai art style of MA, why do you see articles about Yanagi-Ryu in Aikido Journal, do not make any sense. Yanagi-Ryu should be on a different classification.

    I think it is more closely related to - " Ju-jitsu is called the mother art in that it forms the basis for many of the more modern arts, including Judo, Aikido, and some Karate styles....."

    www.roninyudansharyu.com/JuJitsu.htm
    Traditional jujutsu is not the ancestor of karate in any way, shape or form. As for Yanagi-ryu, Aikido Journal covers Daito-ryu as well, and Yanagi is probably related as one of the Yoshidas studied Daito-ryu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor X
    Constipation such as this is so unseemly.

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    Eyebeams and Doc X,

    I was quoting the website, it says some (not all) karate (empty hand, do not necessarily mean Okinwan) style. It is impossible for a samurai not to have karate empty-hand techniques in order to survive on a battle field. I agree with the web site because I remember when I was thirteen years old, my uncle parctice old style Ju-Jitsu. They used weapons, puching, kicking, grappling and throws. Unlike modern Garcie Ju-jitsu today, the emphasis is more towards grappling. But what do I know you are both smarter than me :)
    Last edited by zengun9; 10/09/2006 1:05pm at .

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